Remember Lot’s Wife

Cold Open And Warning

0:00 SPEAKER_10: Jesus was brief.

0:02 SPEAKER_10: Let us do likewise.

0:03 SPEAKER_10: Jesus declared in Luke 17, 27, remember Lot's wife.

0:08 SPEAKER_10: Now is the time to remember Lot's wife.

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1:02 SPEAKER_10: Here are your hosts, Timothy and Jacob.

Hosts Set The Topic

1:08 Timothy: I guess I should say I'm Timothy, and you're Jacob, right?

1:12 Timothy: That's correct, I guess.

1:14 Timothy: All right.

1:14 Timothy: How's it going, Mr.

1:15 Jacob: Jacob?

1:16 Jacob: It's going good, Sir Timothy.

1:18 Timothy: Well, we're going to talk about Lot's wife today, and we're going to talk about a lot of things associated with Lot's wife.

1:26 Timothy: Hope that's not too much for you, because it's a lot.

1:29 Jacob: Nope, it's not too much.

1:31 Timothy: Alright, so question for you, because it's question time for Mr.

1:36 Timothy: Jacob.

1:37 Timothy: Play the clip, warm yourself up, and let's go for it, Jacob.

1:43 SPEAKER_10: Ready?

1:44 SPEAKER_10: Set.

1:45 SPEAKER_10: Got a question for you.

1:47 SPEAKER_10: Whoa, whoa, whoa, says Jacob.

1:50 SPEAKER_10: Tough, says Tim.

1:52 SPEAKER_10: No whoa, no go woa.

1:55 SPEAKER_10: Here is the question.

2:03 Timothy: All right, Jacob, are you ready?

What Could Revive American Christianity

2:05 Jacob: I'm ready.

2:06 Timothy: Okay, what can revive Christianity in America?

2:11 Timothy: Because we already know that it's a mess, right?

2:13 Timothy: It's like lopping all over the place.

2:16 Timothy: It's just I would say it's a complete mess, kind of a dying thing.

2:21 Timothy: Right?

2:21 Timothy: Are we in agreement on that?

2:22 Jacob: Oh, yeah, we're in agreement on that.

2:24 Timothy: All right.

2:25 Timothy: So what's the solution?

2:27 Timothy: What what can revive Christianity in America, the United States of America?

2:34 Jacob: Um, what can or what should, I guess what what can Whoa whoa whoa.

2:42 Timothy: Just to answer the question.

2:45 Timothy: One thing that could just turn it around, light it up, make it on fire, a nuclear revival.

2:55 Timothy: What?

2:56 Jacob: A nuclear bomb.

2:58 Jacob: Well, no, that would technically destroy uh Well, not all of it, because then some some people might rise to the top.

3:08 Timothy: Well, I had to do that.

3:09 Jacob: You might put the fear of the real fear of God in people's lives.

3:15 Timothy: Hmm.

3:15 Timothy: Well, that's you know, that's a topic for another podcast.

3:18 Timothy: I'm not even sure that would work.

3:20 Timothy: But you're wrong.

3:21 Timothy: I'm wrong too.

3:23 Timothy: Okay.

3:24 Timothy: What what would revive Christianity in America is Godball.

3:31 Timothy: Godball?

3:33 Timothy: Yeah, you've never heard of Godball?

3:35 Jacob: No, I haven't.

3:36 Timothy: Yeah, Godball is sports.

3:41 Timothy: Christian athletes playing in the arenas and doing those things.

3:45 Timothy: You know how they pray at the end and they talk about Jesus and concerts and all that.

3:50 Timothy: But so there's a book out called Godball.

3:53 Timothy: Oh.

3:53 Timothy: And it's coming out very shortly.

3:55 Timothy: Okay.

3:55 Timothy: And that will revive America.

3:57 Timothy: So let's play the clip that'll give you a short introduction of it, and then we'll talk a little bit more about it.

4:03 Timothy: And believe it or not, this actually does fit in with Lot's wife.

4:10 SPEAKER_10: Christianity is lagging.

4:12 SPEAKER_10: Christianity needs a boost.

4:15 SPEAKER_10: Christianity is far from the goalpost in the United States.

4:20 SPEAKER_10: What can save Christianity?

4:23 SPEAKER_10: What can save prayer?

4:25 SPEAKER_10: What can save worship?

4:28 SPEAKER_10: What can revive Christianity?

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5:21 Timothy: Jacob, can you tell that our bumper guy probably has a long history of doing sports and radio show stuff?

5:28 Jacob: Yes, correct.

5:29 Jacob: Oh yeah.

5:30 Jacob: He's uh he's he knows exactly what to do.

5:33 Timothy: Oh, he did every sport, every sound effect.

5:36 Timothy: It's pretty good stuff.

5:37 Timothy: So anyway, good book is coming out that we're told is going to revive America called Godball.

5:45 Timothy: We've kind of made that point.

5:46 Timothy: So let's play the info better.

5:48 Timothy: We're not going to spend a lot of time on it.

5:49 Timothy: My point isn't to tear the book about apart.

5:53 Timothy: My point is to show just how pathetic it is and how worthless the church is in terms of what even is considered Christianity and how it's like the time in Lot's time.

6:06 Timothy: Now, you'll notice as this is being played, Jacob.

6:09 Timothy: Here's our good friend again.

6:11 Timothy: Who's giving the advice?

6:12 Timothy: Who who's promoting the book?

6:15 Jacob: Do you see it there?

6:16 Jacob: Steve Eubanks.

6:19 Timothy: No, that's who wrote the book.

6:20 Timothy: Oh.

6:21 Timothy: Keep going.

6:21 Timothy: At the end of that sentence, New York?

6:24 Jacob: New York Times.

6:26 Jacob: No, no, no, no.

6:27 Jacob: Okay, it says The Blaze.

6:29 Jacob: Oh, it doesn't on my screen.

6:31 Jacob: I just am looking at the wrong thing.

6:34 Timothy: Okay.

6:35 Timothy: Well, let's play the clip, and you hear the Blaze is recommending this book.

6:41 Timothy: And again, they're Mormons.

6:43 Timothy: Yeah.

6:44 Timothy: So clearly, doctrine doesn't mean anything, but we'll get into that in a moment.

Godball And Sports As “Revival”

6:48 Timothy: Go ahead and play the intro.

6:51 SPEAKER_04: Godball, how athletes are saving Christianity by Steve Eubanks.

6:55 SPEAKER_04: Savings pre-order price guarantee.

6:58 SPEAKER_04: Sports journalist Steve Eubanks' new book explores the faith revival among athletes and the threat that could hinder it.

7:05 SPEAKER_04: The blaze.

7:06 SPEAKER_04: From a New York Times best-selling author, sports journalist, and fellow believer comes a riveting exploration of the sports-centered Christian revival sweeping America.

7:16 SPEAKER_04: After a 30-year reduction in Americans who identified as Christians, the 2020s have seen the birth of a new Christian revival bordering on revolution.

7:25 SPEAKER_04: Pastors and Christian leaders see it, as do many secular observers.

7:29 SPEAKER_04: But nowhere is the trend more evident than in sports.

7:33 SPEAKER_04: Tune in to any post-game interview or press conference, and it won't be more than a minute before you hear someone giving a Jesus shout out.

7:40 SPEAKER_04: First and foremost, I want to give all glory and praise to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

7:46 SPEAKER_04: Language that was once limited to more intimate circles of faith are now being broadcast to, and is also being embraced by, the mainstream.

7:54 SPEAKER_04: Some of these events turn into full-blown testimonials.

7:57 SPEAKER_04: Acclaimed sports journalist Steve Eubanks argues something deeper is at play here.

8:02 SPEAKER_04: These athletes have become Christianity's most powerful evangelists.

8:06 SPEAKER_04: Why is this happening?

8:07 SPEAKER_04: And what role is it playing in the increase in young people, particularly men, declaring themselves as Christians?

8:14 SPEAKER_04: And, more importantly, what does it all mean?

8:17 SPEAKER_04: A man of deep faith, Eubanks embarks on a reporting journey to find the answer to these questions, interviewing many high-profile Christian athletes.

8:26 SPEAKER_04: Eubanks explores the pivotal role of the Supreme Court's 2022 decision in Kennedy versus Bremerton, traces a common conviction among Christian athletes and coaches who see the revival as part of a larger spiritual battle, and warns that the rapid rise of sports gambling may be a toehold of sin capable of undermining the entire movement.

8:47 SPEAKER_04: In this inspiring and revealing book, Eubanks takes readers inside the explosion of Christian evangelism in sports and shows how the world's top athletes are doing God's work to save the church.

9:06 Jacob: Rev revolutionary.

9:08 Jacob: There was some other catchphrase that was like what?

9:14 Timothy: I you know, I encourage people, it's free.

9:16 Timothy: Read the book and sending the church.

9:19 Timothy: This is just insane.

9:20 Timothy: I could spend a whole show just on this particular discussion about how great he is and boasting in our strength a little bit, but and we don't have time for that.

9:29 Jacob: Oh, sports betting is bad.

9:31 Jacob: Yeah.

9:32 Jacob: Oh, oh, okay.

9:33 Jacob: This is revolutionary that sports betting is is evil.

9:37 Jacob: Well, yeah.

9:38 Jacob: Okay.

9:40 Timothy: We're still kind of missing his whole point.

9:41 Timothy: He goes, a toehold.

9:43 Timothy: Oh, yeah.

9:45 Timothy: It can become a toehold, just bear.

9:46 Timothy: In other words, when you look at sports, it's basically pretty clean.

9:50 Timothy: Oh, yeah, yeah.

9:51 Jacob: Sports is okay.

9:52 Timothy: And it and it's really the cheerleaders are dressed okay.

9:55 Timothy: The the you know, the I don't know, when mostly sports, taking up all the time when you could be carrying your cross and all these things.

10:02 Timothy: You know, but the danger, the real danger is gambling could get a toehold into it.

10:09 Timothy: And it could undermine all of the good things that they're doing.

10:12 Timothy: Exactly.

10:13 Timothy: As if gambling hasn't been going on with sports.

10:19 Jacob: We already know it's bad.

10:22 Timothy: In the Bible, kids gamble about all kinds of stuff.

10:26 Timothy: This is just nuts.

10:27 Timothy: Um, of course, he's an acclaimed journalist.

10:29 Timothy: He's also a fellow believer.

10:31 Timothy: Now, again, I gotta ask, is he Mormon?

10:33 Timothy: Because we're talking about the blaze and some interaction going here.

10:36 Timothy: So, so actually, who's doing the writing here and what are we talking about?

10:40 Timothy: But you people can you can get into that yourself.

10:43 Timothy: First of all, it's pretty much an assured thing.

10:46 Timothy: He's I'm gonna should have gotten the limp.

10:48 Timothy: He sounds Baptist-y, let's put it that way.

10:50 Timothy: But most people do the believer's prayer.

10:52 Timothy: He, you know, first of all, I want to give my glory to and praise to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

10:57 Timothy: That's just lingo they always throw out.

10:59 Timothy: It's the same lingo.

11:00 Timothy: Nobody's ever talking about discipleship and so on.

11:04 Timothy: All right, so comments before I kind of just blow this out of the water or with one scripture.

11:10 Jacob: Uh yeah, only that everybody says Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

11:14 Jacob: Um, the more watered down you are, that's what you start with.

11:17 Jacob: Uh, thinking of jelly roll, right?

11:20 Jacob: All these people who aren't Christians say my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

11:24 Jacob: Well, you heard Jelly Roll's getting a divorce, right?

11:27 Jacob: Yes, I saw that one.

11:28 Jacob: Yeah.

11:28 Timothy: Yeah, we don't even have time for that.

11:31 Jacob: Oh, yeah, and he's the Christian, and he's the one that's I don't even, it's it's it's so nonsense.

11:36 Jacob: I don't even know why we should talk about it.

11:38 Jacob: Uh but like he's he's a very good thing.

11:40 Jacob: Because other people clearly are holding it up.

11:42 Jacob: He's not being rebuked.

11:44 Jacob: Well, yeah, because he says he's a Christian, but he's the one filing for divorce, even if like he was such a good Christian that she filed for divorce, saying, Well, he's a Christian and I don't want to be one, so I'm leaving him.

11:55 Timothy: But it's not, it's the other way around.

11:58 Timothy: It's more sore than that.

12:00 Timothy: She they both have agreed that she's still going to have his baby.

12:04 Timothy: I saw that too.

12:06 Timothy: Yeah, it's bizarre.

12:08 Timothy: Well, actually, this is a good timing in the sense of doesn't this sound like Sodom and Gomorrah?

12:13 Timothy: Oh, yeah, it does.

12:14 Timothy: Yes, oh yeah, it's sound like Lot gets out of town and he sleeps with his daughters.

12:21 Timothy: I mean, this is just so messed up.

12:23 Timothy: This is um, and of course, everybody else has got all kinds of theories and that kind of stuff.

12:27 Timothy: But the point is, you claim to be a Christian, but this is just messy, like, yeah, I lose some weight.

12:32 Timothy: I'm going to divorce you, but we're still friends, and you she's still gonna have my baby.

12:39 Jacob: How much weirder can we get, really, would be the question.

12:42 Jacob: Yeah, we can't get any weirder.

12:46 Timothy: Well, there is a danger to all this though, Jacob.

12:49 Timothy: You've forgotten already.

12:51 Timothy: I don't know what I forget.

12:52 Timothy: Gambling.

12:53 Jacob: Gambling.

12:54 Jacob: I know, yeah.

12:56 Jacob: Yeah, yeah.

12:56 Jacob: We're not gonna attack any of that or you know, say anything about that.

13:00 Jacob: But yeah, but gambling's evil.

13:03 Timothy: One day you're gonna get up, and what day's what day is football mostly played?

13:07 Timothy: I know this involves.

13:08 Jacob: Sunday's a big day.

13:09 Jacob: Sunday's a big football day.

13:10 Timothy: Okay, that's what I thought.

13:11 Timothy: So Sunday, I'm skipping church because I'm staying home to be a part of the revolution and the revival, and so I fire up the TV, and then all of a sudden, because overnight the toehold of gambling got in, and I'm gonna discover oh man, this has really gone downhill.

13:28 Timothy: Sin has taken over.

13:30 Timothy: Yeah.

13:32 Timothy: Okay.

13:33 Timothy: Oh, all right, Jacob.

13:36 Timothy: So anything else on jelly roll and all this?

James Says Look For The Poor

13:40 Timothy: Because it really is.

13:41 Jacob: Oh, it's so it's so gross.

13:45 Timothy: Let's go to James chapter two, verse five, because it's not the players, it's not football, it's not those who have athletic power and make all the money that have the faith.

14:02 Timothy: I mean, do these people even read scripture, Jacob?

14:05 Timothy: I mean, literally, I mean, just cat just just do they even look at the ink on paper.

14:10 Jacob: I other than the part that says Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

14:13 Jacob: I mean, that's all they can regurgitate, I guess.

14:16 Timothy: Yeah, but the toe of gambling is a problem, yet scriptures I'm not saying there's nothing about gambling in the in the Bible, but it's not like this overwhelming thing like gambling is the end of the world.

14:28 Timothy: That that's that doesn't point there at all.

14:31 Timothy: Correct.

14:33 Timothy: All right, James chapter 2, verse 5, and let's just talk about this for a moment because the first word there in James chapter 2, verse 5 is what?

14:44 Timothy: What's the word, Jacob?

14:46 Timothy: Listen.

14:47 Timothy: Listen.

14:48 Timothy: Clearly, some people are not listening.

14:52 Timothy: Listen, my dear brothers, this is all love.

14:55 Timothy: I know that I can come across as grading and uh more of a dirge than a flute and all of that, but my dear brothers, this is all love.

15:04 Timothy: The goal here is not to have something to talk about, to tear apart somebody else.

15:11 Timothy: So I'm not some stupid, dumbed down discernment ministry that just likes to point out the faults of everybody else without telling you what we need to live and what we need to do.

15:21 Timothy: Listen, my dear brothers, this is all love.

15:25 Timothy: Now, what Jake, I'm gonna let you read it, and we all need to pay attention that if I were going to say back up and look at America as a whole and say, okay, I want to know what true faith is, and I want to know who's actually living it, and how it could bring about revival.

15:44 Timothy: I'm not interested in revolution.

15:46 Timothy: I don't even know where that lingo does not belong in a Christian's repertoire of words.

15:53 Timothy: Who would I look for?

15:54 Timothy: What would what would my spiritual eyes go for?

15:57 Timothy: Would it be the razzle and dazzle, the football, and the commercials that come afterwards, and the food and the fun?

16:04 Timothy: What should I look for?

16:05 Timothy: What does it say, Jacob?

16:07 Timothy: Uh poor.

16:10 Timothy: Okay, that sums it up.

16:12 Timothy: Go ahead and read it to all of us so we can hear it.

16:15 Jacob: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him?

16:27 Timothy: So who is it we're supposed to look for?

16:29 Timothy: These football players?

16:30 Timothy: We're gonna get to this in a moment as far as how much they earn and what they do.

16:35 Timothy: Has not God highlight that, underline it, or just read it and listen.

16:40 Timothy: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith?

16:48 Timothy: If I want to discover who has true faith, if I want to discover where revival really has its seat, I should be looking for the poor in the land.

17:00 Timothy: Are any of these football players poor?

17:03 Jacob: Most definitely not.

17:04 Timothy: So it destroys the whole book.

17:06 Timothy: This this is just one scripture.

17:09 Timothy: What you have here is a golden calf that's being built.

17:12 Timothy: Of course, everybody wants to enjoy.

17:15 Timothy: Let me back up.

17:16 Timothy: Jesus comes along and says, Yeah, you gotta pick it.

17:18 Timothy: Well, you wouldn't say pick up your cross.

17:20 Timothy: You gotta follow me.

17:21 Timothy: So I'll see you Sunday at the football game with all the fun food and frolicky that's going on.

17:28 Timothy: Really, that that's what we have distilled down the message of Jesus Christ to.

17:34 Timothy: It's no wonder I look bizarre.

17:36 Timothy: Yeah.

17:37 Timothy: I mean, and there's a lot of reasons why people hate me, but uh this certainly adds fuel to the fire.

17:43 Timothy: Listen, my dear brothers, has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world?

17:50 Timothy: Man, give me I don't want to be stereotypical, but you go down to Louisiana in the back woods and they're in there worshiping the Lord, no air conditioning, no fancy.

18:00 Timothy: They just got basic clothes.

18:02 Timothy: Find me an older woman there in that church probably has the richest faith that we could rejoice and celebrate in.

18:11 Timothy: He goes on to say, James says, and to inherit the kingdom of God.

18:15 Timothy: So it isn't just these people that have the faith that we're supposed to look for, these poor in the land, but they are going to inherit the kingdom because they love him.

18:27 Timothy: Comments on that, Jacob?

18:29 Timothy: No.

18:30 Timothy: And I don't this is not to be self-serving, but yeah, I'm not I'm considered an outcast, I'm considered a cult leader, I've been uh semi prosecuted by King County prosecutors, ran out of towns, despised and hated by most churches.

18:48 Timothy: I'm pretty much poor in the eyes of the world, and by that I mean my ministry is nothing.

18:53 Timothy: There's there's no reason to look, there's no reason to contact, there's no reason to read any of the books, right?

18:58 SPEAKER_08: Yeah.

18:59 Timothy: It's not a poverty of riches.

19:01 Timothy: I'm an American Christian.

19:02 Timothy: I mean, it it gets really rough to be poor unless you just move to Seattle.

19:06 Timothy: Those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith.

19:12 Timothy: Are they passing out with all the money they have?

19:14 Timothy: Are they passing out EDBs for free?

19:16 Timothy: Have stands out there?

19:18 Timothy: I mean, we're talking prayer.

19:21 Timothy: They win a goal or they win a game and prayer.

19:24 Timothy: Oh man, that's a revolution.

19:27 Timothy: Or they do an in uh an interview.

19:29 Timothy: These interviews don't go any deeper than, yeah, I love Jesus Christ and I'm a Christian and I'm proud of my faith.

19:35 Timothy: That that's about as far as it goes, right?

19:37 Timothy: Correct.

19:38 Timothy: All right, Jacob, shall we talk about some of these sports players?

19:42 Timothy: And these now, I gotta be specific here.

19:44 Timothy: These are Christian sport players.

19:47 Timothy: So let's take James 2 5.

19:49 Timothy: This is God has chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith.

19:55 Timothy: And you tell me, after we examine how much these guys are worth, if they are poor in the world.

20:04 SPEAKER_10: The Apostle James wrote in chapter 2, verse 5 Listen, my dear brothers, has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him?

The Money Behind Celebrity Faith

20:20 SPEAKER_10: But cultural Christians mock the word of God and look to sports.

20:25 SPEAKER_10: Soccer, Cristiano Ronaldo, annual 235 million, net worth 1.2 to 1.4 billion, projected 1.5 billion plots.

20:37 SPEAKER_10: NBA, Stephen Curry, annual 62 million.

20:41 SPEAKER_10: Net worth, 240 million, projected 300 million dollars.

20:47 SPEAKER_10: MLB, Vladimir Guillermo Jr.

20:50 SPEAKER_10: Annual 30 to 40 million.

20:52 SPEAKER_10: Net worth, 40 million, projected$200 million.

20:57 SPEAKER_10: NFL, Russell Wilson, annual 10.5 million.

21:02 SPEAKER_10: Net worth 185 million.

21:05 SPEAKER_10: Projected$200 million.

21:08 SPEAKER_10: NFL, Will Anderson Jr.

21:11 SPEAKER_10: Annual$50 million AAV.

21:14 SPEAKER_10: Net worth$35 million.

21:17 SPEAKER_10: Projected$150 million.

21:20 SPEAKER_10: NFL, Jackson Smith Enigma, annual$42 million AAV.

21:26 SPEAKER_10: Net worth,$20 million.

21:28 SPEAKER_10: Projected$100 million.

21:32 SPEAKER_10: NHL, Mark Skyfel.

21:34 SPEAKER_10: Annual$8 million.

21:36 SPEAKER_10: Net worth, mid-high millions.

21:39 SPEAKER_10: Projected$50 million.

21:42 SPEAKER_10: Soccer, Christian Pulsing.

21:44 SPEAKER_10: Annual$5.5 to$6 million.

21:47 SPEAKER_10: Net worth$40 to$62 million.

21:50 SPEAKER_10: Projected$70 million.

21:53 SPEAKER_10: NBA VJ Edgecomb.

21:56 SPEAKER_10: Annual rookie scale.

21:57 SPEAKER_10: Net worth, low millions, projects.

22:00 SPEAKER_10: Projected$30 million.

22:03 SPEAKER_10: MLB Tim Tebow.

22:05 SPEAKER_10: Annual Low Six Figures.

22:08 SPEAKER_10: Net worth$100.

22:10 SPEAKER_10: Projected$10 million.

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22:30 Timothy: All right, Jacob.

22:31 Timothy: Thoughts?

22:32 Jacob: The numbers are staggering.

22:35 Timothy: Staggering.

22:37 Timothy: These are not the if you want to understand faith, if you want to understand what it is to follow Jesus Christ, if you want a rich understanding of faith, these are the people that God says you do not go to.

22:50 Timothy: You do not look to them.

22:52 Timothy: You don't have Godball.

22:54 Timothy: They don't have it down.

22:55 Timothy: Am I saying that they're not Christians?

22:58 Timothy: That's not the point.

22:59 Timothy: God is saying if you want to really understand what it is to love me, if you really want to understand what it is to be a disciple of Jesus Christ, do not look to these guys.

23:11 Timothy: You know, I have a suggestion.

23:13 Timothy: How about all of these Christians here that we just played?

23:16 Timothy: They tithe 10% to the work that we're doing.

23:21 Timothy: What do you think?

23:21 Timothy: I I would have had fun.

23:23 Timothy: I should have run that the number of things.

23:25 Jacob: I'm pretty sure 10% would out of all of them would be millions, like a lot of millions.

23:31 Timothy: Oh yeah.

23:32 Timothy: I first of all I wouldn't even want it.

23:33 Timothy: Do you imagine the nightmare?

23:35 Timothy: Oh yeah.

23:36 Timothy: Let's just say a real miracle took place.

23:39 Timothy: They all got together and said, Yeah, you know what?

23:41 Timothy: We're too much of a fat cat.

23:43 Timothy: We love God, but we need to.

23:44 Timothy: What does you know, Timothy Williams have to say about riches?

23:47 Timothy: Because we understand he's got rich faith.

23:49 Timothy: He's been persecuted.

23:51 Timothy: This also going.

23:52 Timothy: So let's let's get together with him and let's tithe.

23:54 Timothy: I'd have to hire all kinds of accountants and stuff.

23:58 Timothy: It'd be a nightmare.

23:58 Timothy: I would not be interested.

24:01 Timothy: So here's what they could do.

24:03 Timothy: You know what?

24:04 Timothy: Just tithe or buy a bunch of copies of Even Demons Believe and start living that and preaching that.

24:10 Timothy: How long do you think they will be considered a Christian, Jacob?

24:14 Timothy: Not long.

24:16 Timothy: Not long.

24:17 Timothy: All right.

24:18 Timothy: It's a choice.

24:19 Timothy: Everyone has a choice Godball or those who are poor in the eyes of the world.

Why Viral End Times Clips Stay Shallow

24:26 Timothy: Let's move forward, Jacob, inch into Lot's wife and remembering her.

24:32 Timothy: So what I want to play is these couple of videos we're going to look at here that are from the World Wide Web of YouTube and everywhere else.

24:40 Timothy: Discuss and touch on Lot's wife.

24:43 Timothy: And I'm going to tell you right up front, I want you to notice how shallow they are.

24:48 Timothy: Immature, elementary, just basic.

24:51 Timothy: Play this particular clip and listen for how impressed these people are at what he's saying.

24:58 Timothy: And it's infantile.

25:00 Timothy: It's an infantile thing in the Lord.

25:03 Timothy: It's it's not even up to an elementary teaching.

25:06 Timothy: It's just an infantile observation, which is not a teaching.

25:11 Timothy: That's just observing.

25:12 Timothy: Go ahead, Jacob, play play it.

25:15 SPEAKER_00: The rainbow.

25:16 SPEAKER_00: Strike one.

25:18 SPEAKER_00: Then Jesus said, Now that you know about Noah, now you gotta look at Lot.

25:22 SPEAKER_00: What do we know about Lot?

25:23 SPEAKER_00: It says that that city was extremely wicked, and the entire region was wicked.

25:29 SPEAKER_00: But for some strange reason, it only brought out the sexual perversion.

25:34 SPEAKER_00: There was not a straight man in the city.

25:36 SPEAKER_00: Strike two.

25:37 SPEAKER_00: And you know what the Bible says about Sodom and Gomorrah three times?

25:40 SPEAKER_00: It was their pride that caused them to go into that sin.

25:43 SPEAKER_00: So Jesus said, when you see these two elements at the top, three, from Noah and Lot's Day.

25:49 SPEAKER_00: When you see sexual perversion, number one, when you see the rainbow being used, number two, and when you see pride being used, number three, that's a sign that I'm getting ready to come through the door.

25:58 unknown: Wow.

25:58 SPEAKER_00: Pride and the rainbow are the two things the sexual perversion uses.

26:01 SPEAKER_00: And he said, when you see it like in Noah's Day and Lot's Day, guess what we have today?

26:05 SPEAKER_00: Same thing.

26:06 SPEAKER_02: We do, all three of those things.

26:08 SPEAKER_00: So guess what?

26:08 SPEAKER_00: It can't just be that one thing.

26:10 SPEAKER_00: It has to be that along with everything else it says.

26:14 SPEAKER_00: It has to be that along with men can move with speed.

26:18 SPEAKER_00: Our computers move with speed.

26:19 SPEAKER_00: Trains, planes, and automobiles speed.

26:21 SPEAKER_00: AI speed.

26:22 SPEAKER_00: Has to be that and an explosion knowledge.

26:24 SPEAKER_00: So it has to be that, that, and all of the other things at the same time.

26:29 Jacob: Thoughts, Jacob?

26:31 Jacob: Uh yeah, I'm not wowed.

26:34 Timothy: No, it's it's like she's acting like this is something.

26:38 Timothy: You couldn't look out the window.

26:39 Timothy: Oh.

26:40 Timothy: Yeah.

26:41 Timothy: You couldn't watch, listen to the news.

26:44 SPEAKER_07: Yeah.

26:45 Timothy: Uh superficial.

26:47 Jacob: Oh, yeah, like because of these things, we know that the end times are near.

26:52 Jacob: Like, well, yeah.

26:54 Timothy: These are just basic, like I said, it it it may be elementary to a new Christian that's just been baptized or becoming a disciple of Jesus Christ.

Hebrews 6 And The Danger Of Falling Away

27:05 Timothy: But this is just observations and uh and I realize they're short clips, but look at Hebrews chapter six, verse one, Jacob.

27:12 Timothy: Go ahead and read that to us.

27:14 Timothy: What does it what does it tell us to do?

27:18 Jacob: Hebrews chapter six, verse one.

27:20 Jacob: Therefore, let us leave the elementary teachings about Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death and of faith in God.

27:35 Timothy: Let us leave the elementary teachings.

27:38 Timothy: Okay, what about those clips?

27:40 Timothy: And I realize it's just a clip, and we'll play one more in a moment, but what what have you been instructed to do?

27:49 Timothy: Uh leave those teachings.

27:53 Timothy: In the video that he talked about all the signs that had to come together, what were you instructed to obey?

28:00 Jacob: Uh I don't think he was instructing any obedience.

28:03 Timothy: No, no obedience.

28:05 Timothy: No.

28:06 Timothy: He's wrapping around sensational stuff.

28:08 Timothy: It's, you know, the gay, the pride, the sexual morality.

28:13 Timothy: Uh I don't think he probably means a divorce remarriage in the church, but you know, the Sodom and Gomorrah and all of this stuff.

28:20 Timothy: It's everybody loves to pick on the gays.

28:24 Timothy: Now, I'm not telling you the gay isn't sin, but that's though that's elementary.

28:29 Timothy: You can look, even the world looks at all the the gay clown stuff that they do and go, yeah, you know, ick, that's just bad.

28:37 Timothy: Correct?

28:38 Jacob: Well, no, the world doesn't.

28:39 Jacob: The world loves it, don't they?

28:42 Timothy: Well, a section of the world does.

28:44 Timothy: I'm talking about there's still a lot of decent.

28:47 Jacob: Oh, sure.

28:48 Jacob: Yeah, there's a lot of other countries.

28:50 Jacob: Uh, yeah, there's a lot of other people that still are not pro-gay, that's for sure.

28:56 Timothy: Yeah, there's a lot of people that aren't even Christians really that understand I don't want this around my kids.

29:01 Timothy: I've even seen some that are gay individuals get up and say this isn't right in public school and all these things about it.

29:07 Timothy: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

29:08 Timothy: That's all I really miss.

29:09 Jacob: Yeah, no, you're correct.

29:10 Jacob: Yeah, there's a lot of non-Christians that still go, uh, we know this is not a good thing, my kids to be around.

29:17 Timothy: All right, let's again continue to press on, and we'll get to Lot's wife here in detail.

29:22 Timothy: Jacob, go ahead and play the Hebrews six intro.

29:26 Timothy: Hebrews six, one to six.

29:29 SPEAKER_04: Therefore, let us leave the elementary teachings about Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, and of faith in God, instruction about baptisms, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment.

29:48 SPEAKER_04: And God permitting, we will do so.

29:50 SPEAKER_04: It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the Word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.

30:14 Timothy: So, Jacob, which is more important here?

30:17 Timothy: The observation about the gays stealing the rainbow, the sexual morality, the pride, um, all the other things he kind of listed.

30:26 Timothy: What's more important, that or the fact that you can fall away during this time period, lose your salvation, and never ever be allowed to come back?

30:37 Jacob: The the latter is much more important.

30:41 Timothy: So, what we should be awed about, or whoa, is the realization.

30:47 Timothy: Let me read it.

30:48 Timothy: Hebrews 6, 3 again says, let us leave the elementary teachings, and God permitting we will do so.

30:54 Timothy: There's a lot of people you couldn't press on because they're just not ready for it.

30:57 Timothy: They need to go back to elementary school in Jesus Christ.

30:59 Timothy: And that's that's what this is and what YouTube is.

31:02 Timothy: Verse 4, it is impossible, impossible, and I'm repeating this scripture because most people just don't even pay attention to this, don't think it applies to them, and that somehow this doesn't mean what it says.

31:15 Timothy: It is impossible for those who've once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the Word of God and the powers of the coming age.

31:27 Timothy: Hebrews 6, 6, and there's no coincidence, the fact that it's 6-6.

31:32 Timothy: If they fall away to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.

31:44 Timothy: Even verse 7 says, land that drinks in the rain, often falling on it, and that produces a crop useful to those for whom it is farmed, receives the blessing of God.

31:54 Timothy: But the land that produces thorns and thistles is what?

31:57 Timothy: What's the word, Jacob, in Hebrews 6, 8?

32:00 Timothy: But land that produces thorns and thistles is worthless.

32:06 Timothy: Godball is worthless and is in danger as in and is in danger of being cursed.

32:17 Timothy: Let that sink in.

32:19 Timothy: In the end, it will be burned.

32:25 Timothy: Now, this is what the discussion should be.

32:28 Timothy: This is the soberness that should be entering the churches.

32:33 Timothy: Amen, Jacob.

32:35 Timothy: Amen.

32:35 Timothy: Alright, so let's play the next clip.

32:38 Timothy: And again, I you know, I I heard for the kid, and of course everybody's younger because I'm older, but young in the faith, but everything you'll see here is superficial.

32:50 Timothy: And he he doesn't even have a good grasp on what we're going to talk about today concerning Lot's wife.

32:56 Timothy: Because so far, Jacob, if you had to say how the church views Lot's wife, how do they generally just view it without a lot of detail?

33:04 Timothy: You uh how do you think they see her?

33:08 Timothy: Uh don't be like her.

33:10 Timothy: Don't be like her.

33:11 Timothy: That's pretty much it.

33:12 Timothy: Um and this is what he kind of ref reflects.

33:17 Timothy: Go ahead and play it.

33:19 SPEAKER_09: I wish everyone in the world would understand this crazy phrase that Jesus once said in Luke chapter 17.

33:25 SPEAKER_09: This part never made sense to me until recently.

33:29 SPEAKER_09: It's so powerful.

33:30 SPEAKER_09: Jesus is talking about the end days, and he says how in the end days things are gonna be just like in the days of Noah.

33:37 SPEAKER_09: People are gonna be getting married, people are gonna party, people are gonna go to work, it's just gonna be like regular life, right?

33:43 SPEAKER_09: And then out of nowhere, there's gonna be boom, destruction.

33:46 SPEAKER_09: And then he says this interesting line.

33:48 SPEAKER_09: He says, Remember Lot's wife.

33:53 SPEAKER_09: That always confused me.

33:54 SPEAKER_09: I'm like, God, why are you talking about the end days?

33:56 SPEAKER_09: Why are you talking about God's judgment?

33:58 SPEAKER_09: And why are you talking about the end times?

34:00 SPEAKER_09: And then out of nowhere, you just go like remember Lot's wife.

34:03 SPEAKER_09: What is there to remember?

34:04 SPEAKER_09: What's so cool about her?

34:05 SPEAKER_09: Was she pretty?

34:06 SPEAKER_09: Was she like what happened there?

34:09 SPEAKER_09: And then I remember the story of Lot's wife.

34:12 SPEAKER_09: God tells Lot, move out of the city.

34:14 SPEAKER_09: Remember the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.

34:16 SPEAKER_09: He's like, Hey, destruction is coming.

34:17 SPEAKER_09: I don't like the wickedness in this city.

34:19 SPEAKER_09: And Lot, he starts to leave the city, and there was one command that was given to Lot's wife, and it was this don't look back.

34:28 SPEAKER_09: Guess what she did?

34:29 SPEAKER_09: She looked back, and guess what happened?

34:32 SPEAKER_09: Because of her disobedience, she turned into a pillar of salt.

34:36 SPEAKER_09: She froze on the spot, and her life was ruined.

34:40 SPEAKER_09: She never entered the promised land and the place where God was calling them to walk into.

34:45 SPEAKER_09: Stop playing games with God.

34:48 SPEAKER_09: We are living in the end times.

34:50 SPEAKER_09: We are living in a time where you can't look back to your old sin.

34:54 SPEAKER_09: You can't look back to your old stuff.

34:56 SPEAKER_09: You have to move forward.

34:58 SPEAKER_09: The reason you're not progressing in your walk with Christ is because you're looking back to where God has delivered you from.

35:04 SPEAKER_09: You're still flirting with the sin that God delivered you from.

35:07 SPEAKER_09: You're still flirting with the idols that God set you free from.

35:10 SPEAKER_09: And then you're wondering why your life with what with the Lord sucks, why your spiritual life is lacking.

35:16 SPEAKER_09: Because you're still looking back.

35:18 SPEAKER_09: You're not your heart is still in Sodom.

35:21 SPEAKER_09: Her heart was never fully free.

35:23 SPEAKER_09: She still looked back, she still still looked glance.

35:26 SPEAKER_09: Stop looking back.

35:27 SPEAKER_09: Jesus is coming, and you need to get serious with God.

35:29 SPEAKER_09: Look forward, run after the put thing that God told you to run after, and don't look back.

35:47 Timothy: Your initial take on it?

35:49 Jacob: Uh yeah.

35:50 Jacob: You know, he said, like, you know, Lot's wife didn't get to go to like the promised land.

35:58 Jacob: And it's like, well, who said Lot?

36:00 Jacob: I mean, they were they were escaping.

36:03 Jacob: They weren't headed for the promised land.

36:05 Jacob: They were already in sin for being there.

36:09 Timothy: What happens and what we're seeing here is he doesn't understand what discipleship is in following Jesus.

36:14 Timothy: And so it it kind of gets into this generic pep talk, like look forward, don't look back, give up this idol.

36:22 Timothy: But there's no, okay, well, what's the idol?

36:24 Timothy: Yeah.

36:25 Timothy: I realize he's not going into this, but it's like God Paul.

36:29 Timothy: Uh there, where's the specifics here?

36:31 Timothy: I was talking to somebody the other day, and they made the point that the books and the podcasts and things like that, what makes it different is I actually tell people how to do it.

36:42 Timothy: There's nothing in here on how to do it.

36:44 Timothy: And that that used to frustrate me when I first became a Christian, like, well, have faith, be pure, go do this, go do that.

36:50 Timothy: And it's all generically laid out.

36:52 Timothy: Everything there was generic.

36:54 SPEAKER_07: Correct.

36:55 Timothy: Like give up your idols.

36:56 Timothy: Well, okay, how do I give up my idols?

36:59 Timothy: Which idols?

36:59 Timothy: What is an idol?

37:01 Timothy: How should that look?

37:02 Timothy: What does idolatry look like in a Christian's life, and so on.

37:05 Timothy: I encourage him, the book's not in print, but look for essential peace or hating for Jesus that I did many years ago.

37:12 Timothy: If you want a slap in the face, if you want to take God seriously, you go find that book.

37:20 Timothy: Then you call me back and say, Oh, yeah, I agree.

37:23 Timothy: That's really great stuff.

37:27 Timothy: Jesus tells us what to look and remember Lot's wife for.

37:33 Timothy: Do you realize that, Jacob?

37:34 Timothy: I'm not trying to put you on the spot or be negative here, but do you realize everybody quotes, remember Lot's wife?

37:39 Timothy: And they act like that's all that Jesus said about it, other than like just he just said.

37:43 Timothy: It's like, yeah, all of a sudden Jesus says, Ah, remember Lot's wife.

37:47 Timothy: And go, what's that about?

37:48 Timothy: What's he talking about?

37:50 Timothy: Right?

37:50 Timothy: So there's this like focus in on this sentence, and people not realizing what did Jesus say about Lot's wife.

37:57 Timothy: Sure, yeah.

38:00 Timothy: Okay.

38:01 Timothy: Yeah, expound on that a little bit more.

38:03 Timothy: Maybe you can put it a little bit better than I can.

38:05 Jacob: Well, no, because uh in in those verses, I think doesn't he give examples of he says, remember Lot's wife as the example because they would have all known that story.

38:16 Jacob: Because then he he goes on to talk about like not going to get your stuff, right?

38:21 Jacob: You like he he expounds on not looking back.

38:24 Jacob: Don't isn't that the one where like don't anybody that's on the roof of their house don't go back to get anything?

Luke 17 Says Don’t Grab Goods

38:30 Timothy: Well, let's get down and hammer this so that it's specific because you have more knowledge than he does, but it's that's not what Jesus tells us what to be concerned about.

38:39 Timothy: When he says Lot's wife, he he's not talking about sexual immorality, he's not talking about pride, he's not talking about any of the things that this guy talked about or what most people assume.

38:49 Timothy: Let's go to Luke chapter 17, verse 30, and Jesus is going to tell us that when he says, remember Lot's wife, this is what we are to remember about Lot's wife, and to focus in on that and to examine that in our lives.

39:06 Timothy: Go to Luke chapter 17, verse 30.

39:09 Timothy: Go ahead and play it, Jacob, and we'll come back at it.

39:13 SPEAKER_04: Luke 17, 27 to 33.

39:16 SPEAKER_04: People were eating, drinking, marrying, and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the Ark.

39:22 SPEAKER_04: Then the flood came and destroyed them all.

39:25 SPEAKER_04: It was the same in the days of Lot.

39:27 SPEAKER_04: People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building.

39:31 SPEAKER_04: But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.

39:37 SPEAKER_04: It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed.

39:40 SPEAKER_04: On that day, no one who is on the roof of his house with his goods inside should go down to get them.

39:46 SPEAKER_04: Likewise, no one in the field should go back for anything.

39:50 SPEAKER_04: Remember Lot's wife.

39:51 SPEAKER_04: Whoever tries to keep his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it.

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40:34 Timothy: Okay, Jacob.

40:35 Timothy: Luke 17, 30.

40:37 Timothy: It says, He will it will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed.

40:42 Timothy: Then he moves into to talk about Lot's wife and to emphasize.

40:46 Timothy: Now I'm not saying the other part isn't significant, obviously it is, but he's moving toward Lot's wife, and it's verse 31.

40:53 Timothy: Read that, Jacob.

40:54 Timothy: Luke chapter 17, verse 31.

40:56 Timothy: This is just before Jesus will say, Remember Lot's wife.

41:00 Timothy: And you tell me what the one focus is in this particular passage.

41:05 Jacob: On that day, no one who is on the roof of his house with his goods inside should go down to get them.

41:12 Jacob: Likewise, no one in the field should go back for anything.

41:17 Timothy: Then what does it say in verse 32?

41:20 Timothy: Remember Lot's wife.

41:21 Timothy: So what does it have to do?

41:23 Timothy: What's verse 31 talk about?

41:25 Timothy: Sexual morality?

41:26 Jacob: No, he's talking about physical goods.

41:29 Timothy: Physical goods comes down to cash.

41:33 Timothy: On that day, no one who's on the roof of his house with his goods inside should go down to get them.

41:39 Timothy: Likewise, no one in the field should go back for anything.

41:44 Timothy: Remember Lot's wife.

41:47 Timothy: Now, where is the emphasis within the people that talk about the end times and Lot's wife and everything else that we need to be dead to goods, money, things we own?

41:58 Jacob: Uh nobody really talks about it.

42:02 Timothy: No.

42:02 Timothy: And in fact, what we have is Godball, which has to do with success and money and pride.

42:07 Timothy: And I'm telling you again, all the all the other things apply, but look, look at this where he hones it down.

42:12 Timothy: If I was going to start somewhere to understand, okay, I get it.

42:16 Timothy: You know, people are going to marry, they're going to be dancing, they're going to be partying.

42:19 Timothy: Okay, I get it.

42:20 Timothy: That's an observation.

42:22 Timothy: So what would I do with that?

42:24 Timothy: Well, not dance and party, obviously, not go to a godball event.

42:28 Timothy: That's logical.

42:30 Timothy: But now this gets into the heart, and this gets into something that you better be dealing with on a daily basis, or rather, you better let God be dealing with you on a daily basis, an hourly basis, because he says the he seems to be implying, and you tell me if I'm wrong, Jacob, that that what to look at and examine when you really look at Lot's wife, not that she didn't want the whole shebang of Sodom and Gomorrah, but it had to do with goods.

42:54 Timothy: She wanted the things of Sodom and Gomorrah.

42:58 Jacob: Correct.

42:58 Jacob: All of her her possessions.

43:01 Timothy: Correct, possessions.

43:02 Timothy: And that's what we're focusing in on.

43:05 Timothy: So there's two Christianities that are going on here with Lot.

43:09 Timothy: Let's go ahead and play Lot's lot, and let's get in now to some specifics about Lot and what's going on.

Lot’s Choices And A Righteous Mess

43:20 SPEAKER_10: Lot chose his lot.

43:23 SPEAKER_10: Lot marked the boundaries of his home lot.

43:26 SPEAKER_10: Lot chose for himself how to be blessed.

43:30 SPEAKER_10: Lot looked up to the world.

43:32 SPEAKER_10: Lot looked up for the green soft blessing.

43:35 SPEAKER_10: Lot looked up and chose the earthly waters for himself.

43:40 SPEAKER_10: Genesis 13, 10 and 11.

43:43 SPEAKER_10: Lot looked up and saw the whole plain of the Jordan was well watered, like the Garden of the Lord, like the land of Egypt, towards Zor.

43:52 SPEAKER_10: So Lot chose for himself the whole plain of the Jordan.

43:57 SPEAKER_10: Lot had to run from his faith.

43:58 SPEAKER_10: Lot had to flee.

44:00 SPEAKER_10: With wife and daughters, Lot had to endure the corruption of family.

44:04 SPEAKER_10: At the first church of Lot, a lot went wrong.

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44:29 Timothy: We're going to look at Genesis 13.8 here in a moment, Jake, and we'll get started there in just a second.

44:36 Timothy: There's kind of a little bit of assumption here that I'm not sure I'm correct on.

44:41 Timothy: It says in, I believe it's in Hebrews or somewhere in the New Testament, that Lot was tormented in his righteous soul because of all the sin that he saw going on.

44:51 Timothy: So we're going to assume that Lot kind of has a faith here worth redeeming.

44:57 Timothy: Make sense on what I'm saying so far?

44:59 Jacob: Correct.

45:00 Timothy: It is interesting, though, that when Abram, and this is Abram at this point, when he's talking to the angels, you know, he goes, if you find ten men, and he goes on down the list, right?

45:10 Timothy: Well, he stops short.

45:12 Timothy: He had to kind of know the number of Lot's family, right?

45:16 Timothy: Mm-hmm.

45:17 Timothy: Well, he stops before we get to that number.

45:21 Timothy: So Lot's never included in what Abram is saying.

45:24 Timothy: And that's something we can't explore in today.

45:27 Timothy: So is he not part of the chosen?

45:28 Timothy: But yet somehow there's a lot of people that are tormented about what's going on, and they kind of go to church, they do their thing, but you wouldn't really call them like, man, you're not really a disciple.

45:39 Timothy: You're you're playing a game here, it's cultural Christianity, uh, it's just kind of a basic kind of belief.

45:46 Timothy: So what what I don't know, because the Lord just hasn't made it clear and it's really none of my business, is okay, at what position, where where is Lot in the scope of being saved?

46:00 Timothy: Well you want to answer that question, Jacob?

46:02 Jacob: Well, I it in the New Testament he's referred to as a righteous man.

46:08 Timothy: Correct.

46:10 Timothy: Correct.

46:11 Timothy: Tormented in his righteous soul.

46:12 Timothy: So yeah, you bring up a good point.

46:14 Jacob: I well, no, I've just it, you know, I think we've kind of talked about this before, so you would you would assume that he if he was a righteous man, uh I there's a lot of we assume he kind of went to heaven for some reason.

46:31 Timothy: Yeah, you know, I really I'm looking at the scripture again.

46:33 Timothy: I gotta correct myself.

46:34 Timothy: 2 Peter 2, 7 says, and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men, and then verse uh eight of 2 Peter 2, for the righteous man living among them day after day was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard.

46:52 Timothy: So you are correct.

46:53 Timothy: I mean, how many more times can scripture say he's a righteous man?

46:56 Timothy: He's a righteous man.

46:57 Timothy: Um I do find all of this kind of fascinating as far as you know Abram's discussion with the angels and things like that.

47:04 Timothy: So that's not our focus today, but I appreciate the point.

47:10 Timothy: All right.

47:11 Timothy: Now, that said, was his Christianity, and we're gonna put this in today's term, a mess.

47:17 Jacob: Oh, yeah, absolutely.

47:19 Jacob: I mean, uh, yeah.

47:22 Timothy: It reminds me of when Paul writes, he says the man may be saved, but is one passing through the flames.

47:27 Timothy: Everything will be burned up.

47:28 Timothy: Yeah.

47:28 Timothy: There's no way that God ball and these people and these cultural Christianities, if they are saved, and that and I'm not saying just everybody that claims to be a Christian or is involved in cultural Christianity is saved.

47:39 Timothy: There are those people that within that context, their Christianity is an absolute mess, their children are a mess.

47:45 Timothy: The whole concept of the family is a mess.

47:48 Timothy: Same thing as Lot.

47:49 Timothy: And yeah, God's going to rescue them and be merciful, but but you can't turn around and go, well, Lot just turned toward God and had all this fruit for God.

47:59 Jacob: No, I mean the angels literally grabbed Lot by the hand.

48:04 Jacob: It says like he grab the angel grabs him and just says, We're going now.

48:08 Jacob: So Lot and the Lord just chose, we don't know why, right?

48:13 Jacob: But the Lord chose to save Lot.

48:16 Timothy: On a superficial analysis that I I hear you that he was a righteous man on the inside, but his science wasn't an absolute mess.

48:25 Jacob: But the Lord literally had to save him.

48:27 Jacob: It's not even because like he really obeyed.

48:30 Timothy: And yeah, he wasn't all that eager to get out of it and run and do all and then of course he got drunk once he got out.

48:37 Timothy: Yes.

48:38 Timothy: Um, and then his daughter slept with him.

48:40 Timothy: I mean, you you again, you really, really have a mess.

48:45 Timothy: Obviously, if we had a Sound Doctrine Church branch office there, he'd be thoroughly rebuked.

48:51 Timothy: He wouldn't get a bye with all this, but we're within the New Testament at this point.

Abram Lifts His Eyes Higher

48:55 Timothy: Let's go to Genesis chapter 13, 8 and move into this a little bit.

48:59 Timothy: It says So Abram said to Lot, Let's not have any quarreling between you and me or between your herdsmen and mine, for we are brothers.

49:07 Timothy: It's not is not the whole land before you.

49:10 Timothy: Let's part company.

49:11 Timothy: If you go to the left, I'll go to the right.

49:13 Timothy: If you go to the right, I'll go to the left.

49:15 Timothy: Now look at verse 10 here.

49:16 Timothy: It says, Lot looked up and saw.

49:19 Timothy: So he's looking up, is he not?

49:21 Timothy: Yes.

49:22 Timothy: And that's a but he's looking up only on a superficial worldly level.

49:28 Timothy: But it is looking up.

49:31 Timothy: Now my point here being that is there are a lot of people claiming to have faith or whatever, and they're they look up, but they don't go far enough up.

49:41 Timothy: So their faith is always shallow, it's always kind of earthbound.

49:45 Timothy: It's like Godball, it's based on, you know, all kinds of superficial worldly things.

49:50 Timothy: We'll see this here in a moment.

49:52 Timothy: Lot looked up and saw that the whole plain of the Jordan was well watered, like the garden of the Lord, like the land of Egypt towards Zoar.

50:01 Timothy: You'll notice the first thing it kind of says there that, or one of the things it says is that like the garden of the Lord, so there's this spirituality mixed into it.

50:10 Timothy: This was before the Lord destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.

50:13 Timothy: By the way, interrupt me if there's anything you want to kind of add as we go along.

50:17 Jacob: Oh, okay, real quick though.

50:19 Jacob: Uh how come Lot, so Abraham is the one suggesting we're gonna part companies and you get to pick.

50:26 Jacob: But how come Lot doesn't go, okay, Abram, I understand what you're saying, but no, no, no, I want you, you pick first.

50:33 Jacob: You're like, you know, how come so from the get-go, Lot is concerned apparently about possessions, his own stuff, what is good for Lot versus you know, even even if we're talking about Godball, like these people, uh, these athletes aren't like the Lord is not first on their list.

50:53 Jacob: First on their list is me making money at sports, and then I'll also kind of be a Christian and like talk about a scripture and blah blah blah.

51:02 Timothy: Exactly.

51:03 Timothy: They they only see the world and their comfort, and somehow God is mixing all that.

51:08 Timothy: He there is he wants what he wants.

51:10 Timothy: Yeah, you know, and so he goes, Yeah, I want the good land, I want the good faith, I want the easy.

51:17 Timothy: So you you literally have this choice.

51:18 Timothy: You got the discipleship of Jesus Christ, hating your own life, picking up your cross, or you've got the local Christian church down the street with all the worldly comforts.

51:28 Timothy: Each person is going to decide what they're gonna pick.

51:31 SPEAKER_08: Yeah.

51:32 Timothy: And I can tell you from experience, and we all kind of know which direction that goes.

51:37 Timothy: Now, here's the key Genesis 13, 11.

51:40 Timothy: Read the first four or five words there, Jacob.

51:44 Timothy: So Lot chose for himself.

51:48 Timothy: There's your key.

51:50 Timothy: It's him determining his faith, him determining where he wants to live, him determining he's choosing for himself where he wants to go.

52:00 Timothy: Nothing about the Lord, and this will be very significant as we move into it.

52:03 Timothy: And the reason I'm saying this is this should all tie back.

52:06 Timothy: These should be things that we're examining in our own hearts.

52:09 Timothy: Like, am I really choosing to follow the Lord, or am I choosing for myself the good part of Christianity that I want?

52:18 Timothy: Am I reading the Bible and choosing all the good scriptures that I like?

52:24 Timothy: You know, the ones that they choose that they like that condemn other people, they like those.

52:28 Timothy: So I'm choosing my own walk, I'm choosing my own Christianity, righteous or not, uh a believer or not, however, you want to define that, he is in charge of his life, even as he would today say, Well, Jesus Christ is my personal Lord and Savior.

52:44 Timothy: Even that wording is so pathetic.

52:47 Timothy: Jesus Christ is my personal Lord and Savior.

52:50 Timothy: That sounds like I'm in control.

52:53 Timothy: He's mine, he's in my pocket, correct?

52:56 Timothy: Correct.

52:57 Timothy: So it's this that that's a lot belief.

52:59 Timothy: So Lot chose for himself the whole plane of the Jordan.

53:03 Timothy: You know, I got an envision he didn't need the whole plane, but that's a whole different problem.

53:07 Timothy: Yeah.

53:08 Timothy: The whole plane of the Jordan and set out toward the east, so the two men parted company.

53:13 Timothy: So you've got two people with faith.

53:15 Timothy: You've got Abram at this point, and then you've got Lot at this point.

53:19 Timothy: And so you have each has their faith.

53:22 Timothy: But I want we, as we've said, Lot is choosing for himself.

53:27 Timothy: Now, what happens after God or after Lot leaves?

53:32 Timothy: Let's see what happens.

53:33 Timothy: Verse 12.

53:34 Timothy: Abram lived in the land of Canaan while Lot lived among the cities of the plain and pitched his tents near Sodom.

53:41 Timothy: You know, Scripture keeps repeating what goes on here, so clearly this is a bad decision.

53:47 Timothy: There's a lot of people that need to leave a lot of churches and or call their church to repent, in which case they'll be called to leave.

54:02 Timothy: Now here we come to it, Jacob, chapter, because 1313 is kind of obvious, right?

54:07 Timothy: All right, Genesis 13, 14.

54:10 Timothy: Read that to us, Jacob.

54:12 Timothy: Read verse 14.

54:13 Jacob: The Lord said to Abram, after Lot had parted from him, lift up your eyes from where you are and look north and south, east and west.

54:24 Timothy: Alright, so we have Lot choosing his faith and where he wants to live and what he wants to believe in and what he wants to participate in.

54:32 Timothy: Right?

54:32 Timothy: Yeah.

54:33 Timothy: After they separate, there has to be this disfellowship.

54:37 Timothy: God doesn't tell Abraham while Lot is there or going along with traveling along with Abram.

54:45 Timothy: It's after Lot has thoroughly left.

54:47 Timothy: God has made it clear that he made his tents near, you know, Sodom, and now that's where Lot is living, right?

54:53 Timothy: Then it says the Lord said to Abram, after Lot had departed from him, you have to stay away from people that are enemies of the cross of Christ.

55:04 Timothy: That's why Paul Wright has said, I say with tears, many live as enemies of the cross of Christ.

55:11 Timothy: And by the way, that doesn't mean what the superficial Christians think it means.

55:15 Timothy: It doesn't mean some type of acknowledgement of Jesus.

55:18 Timothy: This is a picked-up cross.

55:20 Timothy: This is a hating your own life cross.

55:23 Timothy: What does God do?

55:25 Timothy: God calls Abraham's faith to expand.

55:29 Timothy: He goes, Lift up your eyes.

55:32 Timothy: Remember?

55:33 Timothy: Did not Lot lift up and look up?

55:36 Timothy: But now God is calling Abram to look up into the sky.

55:40 Timothy: Lift up your eyes from where you are.

55:44 Timothy: From where you are, where you are spiritually, you're not even Abraham yet.

55:48 Timothy: You're lowly, you're nothing.

55:50 Timothy: From where you are standing, right there, your position, who you are, our relationship, everything you are or are not, the man that you are supposed to be or not, or who you are, wherever you are at spiritually, no matter how lowly, high, or whatever, from where you are and look north and south and east and west.

56:11 Timothy: So God is expanding his faith.

56:13 Timothy: He's moving him into richer areas of his word.

56:17 Timothy: Is he not?

56:17 Timothy: Yes.

56:19 Timothy: Do you see that going on within the church?

56:21 Timothy: The discovery of all kinds of scripture about the distress and how to prepare for the end times.

56:26 Timothy: And I don't mean buying vitamins.

56:29 Timothy: You know, I don't mean this superficial.

56:31 Timothy: We keep repeating again and again.

56:34 Timothy: Oh, times are terrible, people are getting married, Sodom Gomorrah, gaze, blah, blah, blah, sexual morality, all those kinds.

56:40 Timothy: We're talking real discipleship here, being expanded.

56:44 Timothy: Where is the love for God's word that people just relish it and take it in and truly honor it?

56:51 Timothy: I've heard that a lot so many times, you know, that you need to honor the word of the Lord.

56:56 Timothy: And yet they only honor a little section, the parts that are comfortable, the green part.

57:01 Timothy: The lot, you know, the when Lot saw the lot of the Lord's garden, it was good.

57:06 Timothy: It was the Lord's, no doubt about it.

57:08 Timothy: But there's no richness there.

57:10 Timothy: Anything, Jacob?

57:11 Timothy: No.

57:12 Timothy: Genesis 13, 15.

57:14 Timothy: All the land that you see I will give to you and your offsprings forever.

57:18 Timothy: This is an eternal thing being stretched out.

57:21 Timothy: I will make your offspring like the dust of the earth, so that if anyone count the dust, then your offspring could be counted.

57:28 Timothy: Go, walk through the length and the breadth of the land, for I am giving it to you.

57:33 Timothy: Not only does he tell him what the promise is, he says, walk in this promise.

57:36 Timothy: And by the way, we don't have time to look at it today, but doesn't it say they did not receive what was promised?

57:44 Timothy: Correct.

57:45 Timothy: So he he doesn't receive it in this world.

57:48 Timothy: Lot is receiving his blessing in this world.

57:51 Timothy: He's choosing the quote unquote good of the land.

57:55 Timothy: So he's gaining what his flesh wants, and it cost him his wife.

58:00 Timothy: It cost him all kinds of turmoil.

58:02 Timothy: And as I keep repeating, his daughters and his family, everybody's just all messed up because they've been in Sodom Gor way too long.

58:12 Timothy: Genesis 13, 18.

58:13 Timothy: So Abram moved his tents and went to live near the great trees of Marima Herabon, where he built an altar to the Lord.

58:21 Timothy: Now we see sacrifice.

58:24 Timothy: What what in all these videos we looked at, where did it end in more sacrifice and surrender?

58:31 SPEAKER_07: No worries.

58:32 Timothy: Where did it cause them to kind of shudder?

58:35 Timothy: Man, terrible times are coming.

58:37 Timothy: The signs are all there.

58:39 Timothy: I could lose my salvation.

58:42 Timothy: Other people could lose my salvation.

58:45 Timothy: Alright.

58:47 Timothy: It comes down to when the Antichrist comes, we all know this.

58:50 Timothy: This is elementary.

58:52 Timothy: But when the Antichrist comes on power, what what does he seize control of, Jacob?

58:57 Jacob: Uh the Antichrist sees control of everything.

59:01 Timothy: Well, that's true, but the main part that scripture emphasizes is money.

59:06 Timothy: Yes.

59:06 Timothy: You can't buy or sell, you can't do any of these things because the Antichrist controls those things.

59:12 Timothy: And Jesus told us to rem just before we talked about remember Lot's wife, it had to do with things.

59:18 Timothy: Don't go get this thing, don't go get that thing.

59:21 Timothy: Unless these Christian athletes and everybody else that looks up to them are being taught to hate and despise money, they're not prepared.

59:31 Timothy: They might be forced to be saved.

59:33 Timothy: Can you imagine God trying to literally save these guys and their family?

59:38 Timothy: I mean, they have so much stuff and so much wealth.

59:41 Timothy: They literally would have to be drugged out of Sodom and Gomorrah and barely saved by the skin of their teeth.

59:48 Timothy: Yeah.

59:49 Timothy: We repeated this too many times, but he Matthew chapter 10, verse 21.

59:53 Timothy: Brother will betray brother to the death.

59:56 Timothy: Where is the discussion of that?

59:58 Timothy: I mean, with some real fear and trembling, like looking at a brother and go, You could betray me to the death, and a father his child.

1:00:08 Timothy: Children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death.

1:00:13 Timothy: All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.

1:00:18 Timothy: That is a tough thing to contemplate.

1:00:23 Timothy: To seriously contemplate.

1:00:26 Timothy: By the way, I always warn my kids growing up that as you turned your back on God, you're gonna the odds of you getting rich are pretty great because that's what Satan comes in with is money.

1:00:36 Timothy: All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.

1:00:40 Timothy: When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another.

1:00:43 Timothy: Well, if you're gonna run from persecution, don't you pretty much have to leave everything behind?

1:00:48 Timothy: Yeah.

1:00:49 Timothy: I mean, when we ran out of the city of Enum Claw, or let me rephrase that, when we were ran out of the city of Enum Claw, I I was busted.

1:00:58 Timothy: Yeah.

1:00:59 Timothy: Everything had to be left behind, did I not?

1:01:02 Timothy: Yes.

1:01:03 Timothy: There had to be this instantaneous not only in the heart, but also in actions.

1:01:08 Timothy: Now God had provided a place for me to flee too, so I don't want I don't want people to get the idea that in the sense of losing, losing everything, but I lost everything.

1:01:17 Timothy: Does that make sense?

1:01:18 Timothy: I know it makes sense to you, Jacob.

1:01:19 Timothy: Sure, it makes sense to me.

1:01:21 Timothy: I tell you the truth, you will not finish going through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes.

1:01:25 Timothy: My point here is where's the persecution?

1:01:30 Timothy: These multimillionaires and these people with sports live in these homes.

1:01:36 Timothy: They're really seriously prepared to flee to another place quickly.

1:01:41 Timothy: I mean, just to wind down to sell everything you have to get to go to auction.

1:01:46 Timothy: Would that not take some time?

1:01:48 Timothy: That would, yeah.

1:01:49 Timothy: Let's just say I had$100 million.

1:01:52 Timothy: I think one of them had that much, right?

1:01:54 Jacob: Uh yeah, net worth was like$200 million, total net worth, I think.

1:01:58 Timothy: Okay, total net worth.

1:01:59 Timothy: And so I'm being persecuted and I have, you know, kicked off the team, and I even have to leave the town of wherever I'm playing, right?

1:02:05 Timothy: Let's let's go to the Seattle Seahawks.

1:02:07 Timothy: I don't know if they're rich or not.

1:02:08 Timothy: Okay.

1:02:08 Jacob: Is that football?

1:02:09 Jacob: Yeah, that's football.

1:02:10 Timothy: All right.

1:02:11 Timothy: So um I have to flee Seattle, which is uh there's proven evidence that that's that can happen easily enough.

1:02:18 Timothy: Thank you very much, King County prosecutors of Seattle, Washington.

1:02:22 Timothy: So he's got to flee.

1:02:23 Timothy: It would take some serious accountants, some serious time to wind down.

1:02:27 Timothy: You couldn't but besides, with that kind of money, uh how would you flee, Jacob?

1:02:32 Timothy: Uh in a private jet.

1:02:34 Timothy: In a private jet with your second or third home, right?

1:02:37 Timothy: Correct, yeah.

1:02:38 Timothy: This is why God tells us, don't go to these people.

1:02:41 Timothy: That doesn't, I'm not to say that they're not saved.

1:02:43 Timothy: I don't know whether they are or not.

1:02:45 Timothy: I'm not in fellowship with them to know.

1:02:48 Timothy: But but they're nobody to look up to.

1:02:50 Timothy: They're actually, in fact, James tells us those who are rich should boast of their low position in Christ.

1:02:58 Timothy: Yeah.

1:03:00 Timothy: Go to Luke chapter 16, verse 11.

1:03:03 Timothy: And again, we're reminding ourselves that when it comes to Lot's wife, what we're focused in on and honing in on is the fact that Jesus twice said, Don't go get anything in your house.

1:03:14 Timothy: Don't go from the field into your house and get anything.

1:03:17 Timothy: As you come down, and by the way, the roofs back then were flat, and a lot of times you were up on the roof, and as you came down, there probably could have been a ladder, right?

1:03:26 Timothy: Yeah.

1:03:26 Timothy: So you're you're literally on your house, you literally get on the ladder, you come down the ladder, but you don't enter the house, you keep running.

1:03:36 Timothy: And it most of us would go, well, wait a minute, it's only take me two seconds to grab that.

1:03:42 Timothy: That's how dead to self you have to be toward wealth and money.

1:03:47 Timothy: And that cross, that little aspect of the cross, the church is not picking up, is not allowing God to teach them, and the Antichrist is going to come along, and they're going to be a lot, a lot of people who fall away and hate and betray other people because they didn't want to give up that one material thing, whether it be a boat car, an ashtray, or whatever it is.

1:04:14 Timothy: Okay, let's play it one more time, Jacob.

1:04:18 Timothy: And play poor in the world, and let's look at these guys' faith and kind of press on.

1:04:26 SPEAKER_10: The Apostle James wrote in chapter 2, verse 5 Listen, my dear brothers, has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him?

1:04:42 SPEAKER_10: But cultural Christians mock the word of God and look to sports.

1:04:48 SPEAKER_10: Soccer, Cristiano Ronaldo, annual 235 million, net worth 1.2 to 1.4 billion, projected 1.5 billion plus.

1:05:00 SPEAKER_10: NBA, Stephen Curry, annual 62 million.

1:05:03 SPEAKER_10: Net worth, 240 million, projected 300 million dollars.

1:05:09 SPEAKER_10: MLB, Vladimir Guillermo Jr.

1:05:12 SPEAKER_10: Annual 30 to 40 million.

1:05:15 SPEAKER_10: Net worth, 40 million.

1:05:17 SPEAKER_10: Projected$200 million.

1:05:20 SPEAKER_10: NFL, Russell Wilson, annual 10.5 million.

1:05:24 SPEAKER_10: Net worth, 185 million.

1:05:27 SPEAKER_10: Projected$200 million.

1:05:31 SPEAKER_10: NFL, Will Anderson Jr.

1:05:34 SPEAKER_10: Annual$50 million AAV.

1:05:36 SPEAKER_10: Net worth,$35 million.

1:05:39 SPEAKER_10: Projected$150 million.

1:05:43 SPEAKER_10: NFL, Jackson Smith Enigma.

1:05:46 SPEAKER_10: Annual$42 million AAV.

1:05:49 SPEAKER_10: Net worth,$20 million.

1:05:51 SPEAKER_10: Projected$100 million.

1:05:55 SPEAKER_10: NHL, Mark Skyfel.

1:05:57 SPEAKER_10: Annual,$8 million.

1:05:59 SPEAKER_10: Net worth Mid high millions.

1:06:01 SPEAKER_10: Projected$50 million.

1:06:05 SPEAKER_10: Soccer, Christian Pulsic, annual$5.5 to$6 million.

1:06:10 SPEAKER_10: Net worth,$40 to$62 million.

1:06:13 SPEAKER_10: Projected$70 million.

1:06:16 SPEAKER_10: NBA, VJ Edgecomb.

1:06:18 SPEAKER_10: Annual rookie scale.

1:06:20 SPEAKER_10: Net worth, low millions.

1:06:22 SPEAKER_10: Projected$30 million.

1:06:26 SPEAKER_10: MLB, Tim Tebow.

1:06:28 SPEAKER_10: Annual Low Six Figures.

1:06:31 SPEAKER_10: Net worth$5 million.

1:06:33 SPEAKER_10: Projected$10 million.

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1:06:55 Timothy: Jacob, let me take a little bit of a pause here.

1:06:57 Timothy: Anything, uh, other aspects of Lot's wife that you had in mind to cover?

1:07:01 Timothy: Because this thing kind of took on a different direction than I'd actually started out with, which is happens a lot of times.

1:07:08 Timothy: Uh no, I don't.

1:07:10 Timothy: Pretty much answering the question about remembering Lot's wife.

1:07:13 Timothy: Yes.

1:07:15 Timothy: Don't care what she looked like.

1:07:17 Timothy: All right, let's dig a little bit deeper.

1:07:18 Timothy: Again, we've talked about how rich these guys are, and I've made the point, okay, you guys, tithe.

1:07:23 Timothy: Kick me your tithe.

1:07:25 Timothy: Don't give it to the church where you get patted on the back.

1:07:27 Timothy: Give it to somebody like me who is so obnoxious to most people, hated by most people, gone through things that King County prosecutors make sure I was associated with the grossest of crimes, who lied by the way.

1:07:40 Timothy: If you really want to participate in the foolishness and the sufferings and cross of Jesus Christ, give me some attention and let's just see how things play out.

Hebrews 10 And Confiscated Property

1:07:50 Timothy: What do you think about that, Jacob?

1:07:51 Timothy: Sounds good.

1:07:52 Timothy: Obviously, I'm not too worried about it.

1:07:54 Timothy: Yeah.

1:07:55 Timothy: Let's go.

1:07:55 Timothy: Hebrews chapter 10, verse 29.

1:07:58 Timothy: This is a little bit of a repeat, but we're also going to dig deeper.

1:08:01 Timothy: Remember, we're we're laying a foundation, and I don't know about every foundation, but you lay down your bricks or you lay down your concrete and you keep building on what's in there.

1:08:09 Timothy: So I want to repeat something for a moment, but we're going to move into some other aspects.

1:08:14 Timothy: Hebrews 10 29.

1:08:16 Timothy: How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished, who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the spirit of great grace.

1:08:29 Timothy: These are believers, people.

1:08:31 Timothy: Hebrews 10 30.

1:08:33 Timothy: For we know him who said, It is mine to avenge, I will repay.

1:08:38 Timothy: And again, the Lord will judge his people.

1:08:42 Timothy: So Jesus Christ is warning that you can fall away from him, and God will judge you for it.

1:08:48 Timothy: Verse 31.

1:08:49 Timothy: It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

1:08:54 Timothy: Now, who is he writing that to Jacob?

1:08:56 Timothy: Real quick.

1:09:01 Timothy: To the Christians, correct?

1:09:03 Timothy: Yes.

1:09:09 Timothy: And I'm using my example because that's the only one I know thoroughly.

1:09:14 Timothy: Who stood bias as King County prosecutors, as the corrupt police in the city of Enum Claw, as the new meet news media came in, as the slander mill went out to do its thing?

1:09:28 Timothy: Who Jacob stood by us?

1:09:29 Timothy: Who who came and said, you know, I'm not a part of this church.

1:09:33 Timothy: I never belonged to it, but I recognize what's going on, and I'm standing here next to you because of Jesus Christ.

1:09:41 Timothy: Who did that?

1:09:42 Jacob: I don't think anybody.

1:09:45 Timothy: And just as a side note, folks, I have stood by other people for whom that uh uh wasn't my cause.

1:09:55 Timothy: And in fact, they commented that later, but that that's beside the point.

1:09:59 Timothy: All right, verse 32, and I'm talking to all these athletes here.

1:10:03 Timothy: You know, I you can't even get Christian lawyers to examine what we went through to comment on because it's so distasteful.

1:10:11 Timothy: It has to do with the offensive message of the cross, it has to do with things they do not live, and it has to do with some very, very nasty slander, and they can't seem to see through all that.

1:10:22 Timothy: So, Jacob, read Hebrews chapter 10, verse 32.

1:10:26 Jacob: Remember those earlier days after you had received the light when you stood your ground in a great contest in the face of suffering.

1:10:36 Timothy: We won't dig on it a whole lot today.

1:10:38 Timothy: Stood your ground.

1:10:41 Timothy: You know, I did not leave Enam Claw until God just told me to leave.

1:10:46 Timothy: There was just a standing there.

1:10:48 Timothy: Hebrews 1033.

1:10:50 Timothy: Sometimes you were publicly exposed to insult and persecution.

1:10:54 Timothy: Hmm.

1:10:54 Timothy: Sound familiar, Jacob?

1:10:55 Timothy: Who these people have faced this?

1:10:58 Timothy: I mean, look, you're doing an interview and you're gonna pray and the news media comes out.

1:11:02 Timothy: It's all tolerable, it's all controlled, it's controversy for sure, but it's not public exposure, it's not insult, persecution, lose your job.

1:11:13 Timothy: I I granted there may be some examples, but not at$100 million.

1:11:17 Timothy: These people aren't being booted out, right?

1:11:19 Jacob: Correct.

1:11:20 Timothy: At other times, look at this.

1:11:22 Timothy: At other times you stood side by side with those who were so treated.

1:11:29 Timothy: Man, so much money, so much position.

1:11:33 Timothy: I don't see them standing side by side.

1:11:35 Timothy: I they probably donate.

1:11:37 Timothy: I mean, that there's like we should give back to the community.

1:11:40 Timothy: And you don't know how I help with hospitals over here, and you don't know.

1:11:44 Timothy: Yeah, those are all everybody likes those things.

1:11:47 Timothy: And and I would dare say there's some nice tax advantages going on.

1:11:50 Timothy: We're talking real cost here, not pretty, pretty stuff.

1:11:54 Timothy: We're talking about the offense of the cross standing by a Jesus and his scriptures that are offensive, side by side with those who were so treated.

1:12:04 Timothy: Can you imagine?

1:12:06 Timothy: You sympathize with those in prison.

1:12:08 Timothy: And look at this.

1:12:09 Timothy: What does it say, Jacob?

1:12:10 Timothy: Hebrews 10 34.

1:12:12 Timothy: Read it and read it carefully for everybody.

1:12:15 Jacob: You sympathize with those in prison and joyfully accepted the confiscation of your property.

1:12:24 Timothy: Huh?

1:12:24 Timothy: Does that not ring of Lot's wife?

1:12:27 Jacob: Yes.

1:12:28 Timothy: We're way past even Lot being forced out, which you brought up.

1:12:32 Timothy: We're way past Lot's wife turning and looking and turning into a pillar of salt.

1:12:37 Timothy: We're now fully into the New Testament.

1:12:41 Timothy: We're deeply into what it means to be a disciple of Jesus Christ.

1:12:44 Timothy: So when they show up to take your things, or as when King County prosecutors ensured that we were bankrupt, destroyed, and gone, it was a joyful aspect in Jesus Christ.

1:12:56 Timothy: You sympathize with those in prison and joyfully accepted the confiscation of your property.

1:13:05 Timothy: Okay, who that who in the news media, who in the Christian news media or anywhere have held up anybody that was joyfully accepting the confiscation of their property?

1:13:18 Timothy: No one.

1:13:20 Timothy: And does not scripture tell us to look for those who are poor in the eyes of the world?

1:13:24 Timothy: Yes.

1:13:25 Timothy: So you should be zooming in.

1:13:27 Timothy: We should have not exposes on football players, but on somebody who had all of their property taken because they stood firm in Jesus Christ and joyfully accepted the confiscation of that property.

1:13:42 Timothy: When the Antichrist comes on the scene, folks, he's going to confiscate all your property.

1:13:50 Timothy: And unless you have learned to hate and despise money, to hate and despise wealth, to just instead not buying gold, not preparing.

1:13:59 Timothy: How do you prepare for the end time when the Antichrist would come along and confiscate all your stuff?

1:14:05 Timothy: How do you prepare for that, Jacob?

1:14:06 Timothy: Do we buy gold?

1:14:08 Timothy: No.

1:14:08 Timothy: Do we buy silver?

1:14:10 Timothy: No.

1:14:11 Timothy: What else do they sell?

1:14:12 Timothy: Vitam.

1:14:13 Timothy: I know they sell vitamins.

1:14:14 Timothy: What else do we hold on to?

1:14:16 Timothy: How to survive?

1:14:17 Timothy: It's always gold and silver, I think, is it?

1:14:19 Timothy: Isn't that what it is?

1:14:20 Jacob: Silver.

1:14:21 Jacob: Lots of, I don't know, food, freezer-dried food.

1:14:26 Timothy: Yep.

1:14:27 Timothy: Okay, well, good point.

1:14:28 Timothy: No, that's a good point.

1:14:29 Jacob: When they show up to take your food, when they just when they show up to take your guns, uh, a lot of people, right?

1:14:35 Jacob: Are like, you can't take this from my cold, dead fingers.

1:14:39 Timothy: That's true.

1:14:40 Timothy: Confiscate your property.

1:14:41 Timothy: We don't have a clip today, but one of the famous YouTubers said, Well, what are we supposed to do when you know we can no longer earn a living and do all that stuff?

1:14:49 Timothy: It's another show.

1:14:51 Timothy: Uh, well, here's a little hint.

1:14:53 Timothy: You joyfully accept the confiscation of your gun, your car, your boat, your freedom, everything else, because it's all going to be taken.

1:15:01 Timothy: Yeah.

1:15:01 Timothy: And unless you've learned to rejoice in those things, I'm not telling you you're not going to suffer or not going to be in pain.

1:15:07 Timothy: Technically, Jesus on the cross, he's rejoicing always.

1:15:10 Timothy: So you can put that dichotomy together for yourself.

1:15:13 Timothy: Joyfully accepted the confiscation of your property because you knew that you yourselves had better and lasting possessions.

1:15:20 Timothy: You're going to have to be like Abraham.

1:15:21 Timothy: You're going to have to look up to the heavens.

1:15:23 Timothy: You're going to have to look up to the stars if God so leads.

1:15:27 Timothy: Walk throughout the land.

1:15:28 Timothy: In other words, walk through the promises of God in order to really accept the kind of misery these people will inflict upon your life.

1:15:37 Timothy: Correct?

1:15:38 Timothy: Correct.

1:15:40 Timothy: Once again, uh and I'm bringing up the point, was there not every misery that King County prosecutors, Jason Simmons, Mark Larson, the other five, every misery that they could bring about, did they not do so?

1:15:53 Timothy: Yes.

1:15:54 Timothy: Every aspect, people, there wasn't anything left.

1:15:58 Timothy: They ensured that every lie was promoted.

1:16:00 Timothy: They ensured that everybody was engaged in the hate crime, that they could continue to do what they do.

1:16:06 Timothy: They lying police, corruption on every level, a hardness to even look at the facts, would not investigate.

1:16:15 Timothy: They wanted us bankrupt, desperate, on the ground, acknowledging their pride and their arrogance.

1:16:22 Timothy: They literally did take everything, and it wasn't their fault that my wife was dying of a brain tumor at the time.

1:16:28 Timothy: But I'm giving you the kind of battle that was going on at that time that my wife is dying of the same time as a brain tumor.

1:16:36 Timothy: And guess what?

1:16:37 Timothy: The local news was whining that, oh, he wasn't in court.

1:16:40 Timothy: Well, no, I was in the emergency room with my wife having an emergency transfusion.

1:16:45 Timothy: Every aspect of how you could be miserable and how they could crush and how they could avert justice.

1:16:53 Timothy: And you got to realize, let me pause right there.

1:16:56 Timothy: Is that all true, Jacob and more?

1:16:58 Timothy: Yes.

1:16:59 Timothy: And this isn't coming from, you gotta understand, when you when you destroy the church, look, I I've experienced a taste of God's love and fellowship with people.

1:17:10 Timothy: A lot of people have thrown their backs on that, but I tasted that it was good.

1:17:14 Timothy: So when you're you're robbing people, a person who has tasted rich love, and you're robbing a person that hates and despises despise money, and you're taking these things away, you're going as deep as you can to crush them.

1:17:27 Timothy: The only thing they didn't quite get to was violence, and the person that was involved in the hagim is trying to get somebody to act violently against us on multiple levels.

1:17:39 Timothy: All of that's true, right, Jacob?

1:17:40 Timothy: Yes.

1:17:42 Timothy: All right.

1:17:44 Timothy: Would you think these individuals that we've talked about so far, and the book isn't even out yet, you think he talks about the joyful confiscation of property?

1:17:55 SPEAKER_07: No.

1:17:57 Timothy: No, the great danger is gambling.

Serving God Versus Serving Money

1:18:02 Timothy: Let's read Luke chapter 16, verse 12.

1:18:04 Timothy: I know we've gone long, but if we're going to remember Lot's wife, we have to remember things.

1:18:13 Timothy: Isn't that what Jesus said, Jacob?

1:18:15 SPEAKER_07: Yes.

1:18:17 Timothy: Luke 16, 12.

1:18:20 Timothy: And if you have not been trustworthy with someone else's property, who will give you property of your own?

1:18:27 Timothy: Well, what does it mean to be trustworthy with the property that God has given us?

1:18:32 Timothy: How are we to be trustworthy?

1:18:34 Timothy: These guys with all of this money that claim to be Christians, if I looked at them and go, hmm, how are you being trustworthy according to Jesus Christ?

1:18:42 Timothy: Would I find Luke 16, 13, Jacob?

1:18:46 Timothy: No.

1:18:47 Timothy: No servant can serve two masters.

1:18:49 Timothy: Either he will hate the one I mean, these guys, at 100 million, 50 million, 5 million, 10 million, they have 10 million reasons to hate something.

1:19:01 Timothy: Do you think they are rich in understanding what it is to hate and despise money?

1:19:06 Timothy: No.

1:19:08 Timothy: Do you think they could teach a class on this?

1:19:10 Timothy: Do you think this concept even enters their mind that they've even been taught?

1:19:14 Timothy: They're not even in this kind of realm or these churches.

1:19:16 Timothy: No, it has to do with praying after winning a game or discussing faith before a TV show.

1:19:23 Timothy: Either he will hate look, none of them have said, you know, yeah, I really believe in my personal Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and I earn a lot of money, but I want you to know Jesus Christ is teaching me to hate and despise that money.

1:19:35 Timothy: So when you look at my life and you see what I'm doing with that money, you will be able to walk away and say, I hate and despise money by my pool, by my cars, by my investments, right?

1:19:47 Timothy: They can't even say that.

1:19:49 Timothy: Their lives don't even point to that.

1:19:51 Timothy: Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other.

1:19:55 Timothy: You cannot serve both God and money.

1:19:57 Timothy: And what we find here with Lot is money, things.

1:20:01 Timothy: Middle Sodom and Gomorrah, buying, selling, marriage, all of those things.

1:20:06 Timothy: Unless you are being taught by the power of the Holy Spirit, and let me give you a little hint, we don't have time to get into it today, is that God says to look for those that are over you in the Lord to teach you how to hate and despise money.

1:20:21 Timothy: He's going to strike at your pride.

1:20:23 Timothy: Because if there's one thing money brings is pride.

1:20:26 Timothy: You know, the guy was right when he said, Yeah, pride is one of the signs.

1:20:30 Timothy: Well, it has to do with our love of money.

1:20:32 Timothy: It has to do with our prosperity, it has to do with the American way.

1:20:37 Timothy: It's easy enough to point to guys that have$100 million, right?

1:20:40 Timothy: Yeah.

1:20:41 Timothy: This comes down to you and I and everybody else on a basic level.

1:20:45 Timothy: Do you leave a church going, man, that's a church that hate, despises money?

1:20:49 Timothy: I mean, they literally had to slander, make up lies, and come at me with false accusations.

1:20:55 Timothy: Correct, Jacob?

1:20:56 Timothy: Correct.

1:20:57 Timothy: Because those spreading the lies knew that we lived in a manner and a way and had an attitude toward money that we hated and despised it.

1:21:07 Timothy: You cannot serve both God and money.

1:21:10 Timothy: Now, verse 14 says, the Pharisees, now these Pharisees are religious, are they not?

1:21:16 Timothy: Yeah.

1:21:16 Timothy: They I don't know if they go to football games or not, but it says the Pharisees who loved money heard all of this and were sneering at Jesus.

1:21:26 Timothy: Let me pause for here a moment and slow down a little bit.

1:21:30 Timothy: It is a terrible burden to be wealthy in Jesus Christ.

1:21:39 Timothy: And if anybody out there has, and I don't want you coming to me that I do, but man, I don't.

1:21:47 Timothy: Anyway, that to be taught how to hate and despise money through godly men and godly women and those that are rich in faith, i it's a if all of a sudden God came along and said, you know, here's ten million dollars, that's a dreadful thing.

1:22:04 Timothy: A dreadful thing.

1:22:07 Timothy: All right, let's go to another commandment, Jacob, and let's let's see if these guys live because they claim to be Christians, right?

1:22:15 Timothy: It's God ball.

1:22:16 Timothy: Yeah.

1:22:17 Timothy: You read Matthew chapter six, verses 19 through 21, and you tell me among those who do Godball, do you see them living the first line of this commandment?

1:22:30 Jacob: Uh read the whole verse.

1:22:32 Timothy: Uh, do the first the first section of the first comma there.

1:22:35 Jacob: Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth.

1:22:41 Jacob: Is that out of context?

1:22:43 Jacob: No.

1:22:43 Jacob: Yeah, it doesn't say buy gold and silver today for the end times.

1:22:48 Timothy: Oh, you gotta be doing commercials.

1:22:52 Timothy: Do not store up how how much clearer can Jesus Christ be about what our attitude is toward money?

1:23:01 Jacob: You can't.

1:23:01 Jacob: It's so crystal clear.

1:23:03 Jacob: It doesn't say invest in the stock market.

1:23:05 Jacob: It doesn't say put in your 401k, it doesn't say make sure you have a comfy pension when you retire.

1:23:12 Timothy: It doesn't say come to my investment firm and bring me your money.

1:23:16 Timothy: And one of my tenants is, oh, I believe we should give back to the community, and so your wealth increases and you can pat yourself on the back.

1:23:23 Timothy: As Jesus said, you already received your reward.

1:23:25 Timothy: What this commandment is clear.

1:23:27 Timothy: So anybody that's wealthy or semi-wealthy, whatever, anybody that claims to be a Christian, I should be able to look at their life and go, well, you're not storing up for yourselves treasure on earth.

1:23:40 Timothy: That is a commandment.

1:23:42 Timothy: Like, I mean, everybody wants to talk about Sodom and Gomorrah, like, you know, don't get into sexual morale.

1:23:46 Jacob: Everybody, well, it's still easy targets to yes, we know that being gay is bad.

1:23:51 Jacob: All the Christians want to sit around and just talk about gays and rainbow flags and whatever, because it's easy and it's obvious.

1:23:56 Jacob: But yeah, this one actually is also obvious.

1:23:59 Jacob: Matthew 6, 19 is obvious, but nobody quotes it.

1:24:02 Timothy: No, nobody.

1:24:03 Timothy: Yeah.

1:24:04 Timothy: Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth where moth and rust destroy, where thieves break in and steal.

1:24:10 Timothy: Clearly, he's talking about actual literal things because he's talking moths are real, rust is real, and thieves that break in are real.

1:24:19 Timothy: Are they not?

1:24:19 Timothy: Yes.

1:24:20 Timothy: All right.

1:24:21 Timothy: So we're not that we again, I'm repeating myself.

1:24:24 Timothy: We look at these lies, we look at all these TV ministries, we look at everything going on, we see all these Christians out here, we see God Ball.

1:24:32 Timothy: I'm sure if I get the book, it's gonna say, hey guys, you you don't need any of that money because Jesus Christ said, do not store up for yourselves treasure on earth.

1:24:44 Timothy: Another quick way to put that would be don't have a savings account, correct?

1:24:47 SPEAKER_08: Correct.

1:24:48 Timothy: All right.

1:24:49 Timothy: But Jesus does worse than that.

1:24:50 Timothy: He always does.

1:24:51 Timothy: I mean, he I you gotta love Jesus.

1:24:54 Timothy: He just hammers it down.

1:24:56 Timothy: Read the next sentence, Jacob, because he doesn't tell us, and this is what he doesn't tell us just not what to do, but he tells us what to do.

1:25:04 Timothy: Go for it.

1:25:05 Jacob: But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven.

1:25:10 Timothy: Where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal, for where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

1:25:18 Timothy: Okay.

1:25:19 Timothy: Again, I'm just using myself an example because it's just kind of fun to do.

1:25:23 Timothy: Uh, I don't see anybody kicking me a large amount of funds to give away a free EDB at that kind of money.

1:25:28 Timothy: I could probably give it for free for everybody else.

1:25:31 Timothy: I actually have something else in mind, but I I don't want to mention it.

1:25:34 Timothy: Uh um but it was it would deal with uh King County prosecutors.

1:25:39 Timothy: For where your treasure is, their heart will be also.

1:25:44 Timothy: All right, as a pastor, because I know what's going through people's minds, he just wants the money, right?

1:25:51 Jacob: Uh yeah, evil people think that way.

1:25:55 Timothy: Well, that's true.

1:25:56 Timothy: Um let me let me just say up front, Jacob, you've known me a long, long, long, long time.

1:26:02 Timothy: Everything about my life shows this to be true, correct?

1:26:05 Timothy: Correct, yes.

1:26:06 Timothy: I passed through the test.

1:26:08 Timothy: I was paid well, in my mind too well, uh, when I worked in the city of Enum Claw, gave it all up when it was time to surrender.

1:26:16 Timothy: It was not there was not even a heartbeat, didn't even miss a second.

1:26:19 Timothy: It was just like, nah nah.

Discipleship Commands And Closing Charge

1:26:22 Timothy: There was Matthew chapter 28, verses 19 through 20.

1:26:26 Timothy: Therefore, go and make disciples of all nations, Jesus said, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son of the Holy Spirit.

1:26:32 Timothy: Oh, wait a minute, I read that all wrong.

1:26:35 Timothy: Therefore, go make the believers of all nations, having them accept me as their personal Lord and Savior in Jesus Christ.

1:26:44 Timothy: Isn't that what it says?

1:26:46 Jacob: Hold on a second, I'm getting there because I'm actually by Matthew chapter.

1:26:49 Timothy: Well, you could probably say no while you scroll there, but Matthew chapter 28, verse 19.

1:26:54 Jacob: No, it does not say it's all about you.

1:26:57 Timothy: By the way, folks, when I used to preach many years ago in a in a church, I'd always say, let us turn to, right, Jacob?

1:27:04 Timothy: Yeah.

1:27:05 Timothy: And there was no time.

1:27:06 Timothy: I didn't give anybody time.

1:27:07 Timothy: So I I wasn't conning anybody.

1:27:09 Timothy: It's like, you can go do that at home.

1:27:11 Timothy: Right now, you just let the word of God soak in.

1:27:13 Timothy: So uh Jacob just tries to keep up.

1:27:15 Timothy: This is a bad pattern I have.

1:27:17 Timothy: I don't wait.

1:27:18 Timothy: Time is short, dates are evil, we're getting to the point, and then we can sit down and enjoy each other's company.

1:27:23 Timothy: I mean, nobody needs to think that how I am, like right now, fired up, and some of my sermons were even more fired.

1:27:29 Timothy: Am I that way all the time, 24-7 today, Jacob?

1:27:32 Timothy: No.

1:27:34 Timothy: There's a whole gamma of personality here because Jesus is rich.

1:27:38 Timothy: He's like a diamond.

1:27:39 Timothy: There's many facets to Jesus Christ.

1:27:42 Timothy: And those that are born of the Spirit have many facets of aspects of their personality to them.

1:27:47 Timothy: Boy, by Sidrack.

1:27:49 Timothy: Therefore, go and make disciples.

1:27:50 Timothy: So if these guys came to me, I am to make a disciple of them, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son.

1:28:00 Timothy: The Holy Spirit.

1:28:00 Timothy: And the only thing they should be saying, and the reason they won't say it, is because then you can look at their life, and then you have one or two choices.

1:28:07 Timothy: You can say, Oh, they really are Christians, or you can go out and slander them because they actually live it.

1:28:13 Timothy: Teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.

1:28:17 Timothy: So I would teach them how to obey, what to obey.

1:28:20 Timothy: Of course, it's all the Holy Spirit.

1:28:22 Timothy: It's all done with fear and trembling.

1:28:24 Timothy: Yes, go listen to the podcast, Prosecutor Jason Simmons Bible study time.

1:28:29 Timothy: Don't listen to the slander.

1:28:30 Timothy: Don't listen to what they said in legal court about doctrines and teachings of God's word.

1:28:36 Timothy: First of all, does anybody really believe that you could discuss the word of God in a courtroom of law and be able to not be slandered, twisted, and perverted?

1:28:49 Jacob: Of course you can.

1:28:50 Jacob: It's their ball court.

1:28:52 Timothy: This ball court.

1:28:53 Timothy: And it has nothing to do with truth.

1:28:55 Timothy: Can you imagine if I went into, well, we're going to talk about the atmosphere of the church and what the teachings are.

1:29:00 Timothy: What's a rebuke and what's love and what's really, we're at a we're in a situation where this is a prayer group and we're going to sit down and discuss.

1:29:08 Timothy: Not a problem.

1:29:08 Timothy: You could have come to a prayer group.

1:29:09 Timothy: I'd have been glad to explain it to you.

1:29:11 Timothy: Yeah.

1:29:12 Timothy: So do not uh do people please understand that what King County prosecutors did was twist, pervert, and lie, and encourage other people to lie on every single level about what was taught and lived.

1:29:28 Timothy: You can be sure.

1:29:29 Timothy: Everything the prosecutor presented, the opposite is true.

1:29:35 Timothy: Amen to that, Jacob.

1:29:36 Timothy: Amen.

1:29:37 Timothy: You had the an envy duty of actually video recording the whole thing.

1:29:43 Timothy: Alright.

1:29:44 Timothy: And surely I am with you always to the very end of the age.

1:29:47 Timothy: It's only those who obey and seek to obey everything that are sure Jesus Christ is with them.

1:29:58 Timothy: Anything you want to add, Jacob?

1:30:00 Jacob: Nope.

1:30:02 Timothy: Anything I kind of left out went too fast.

1:30:06 Timothy: Anything?

1:30:07 Jacob: Nope.

1:30:08 Jacob: If uh a hearer thought you went too fast, they just gotta back it up.

1:30:14 Timothy: That is an advantage.

1:30:15 Timothy: Take us out of here, Jacob.

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