110 The Consider Podcast
Joe Rogan asked: “Why would God make people gay?” We respond, plus why bad answers confuse everyone. How Seattle's Pride Parade spells even more trouble for King County Court and Prosecutor corruptions. Also why time is speeding up.
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SPEAKER_07: Time to consider.
SPEAKER_07: Why time is spinning up?
SPEAKER_07: Seattle's Pride Parade.
SPEAKER_07: Answering Joe Rogan's question.
SPEAKER_07: New laws and therapists.
SPEAKER_07: This and more, if we can get to it, in this The Year of Our Lord, 2026.
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Timothy: How's it going, Mr.
Timothy: Jacob?
Timothy: It's going good.
Timothy: You watching the slip and sliding down into corruption and sexual morality and just perversion as it just slides as fast as it can go.
Jacob: Uh yes.
Jacob: Unfortunately, it's uh continuing to pick up speed.
Timothy: Yeah, we're gonna talk a little bit about that today and dive in as to why and what's going on, but for now, you gotta get ready because I got a question for you.
Timothy: Okay.
Timothy: And it evolves space-time continuum.
Timothy: So let's play the intro and then I'll ask the question.
SPEAKER_07: Ready?
SPEAKER_07: Set?
SPEAKER_07: Got a question for ya.
SPEAKER_07: Whoa, whoa, whoa, says Jacob.
SPEAKER_07: Tough, says Tim.
SPEAKER_07: No whoa, no go woa.
SPEAKER_07: Here is the question.
Timothy: Okay, Jacob, here's the question.
Timothy: Why is time speeding up?
Jacob: Because the universe is speeding up.
Timothy: No, that's just explaining what's happening, not why it's happening.
Timothy: The question is, why is time speeding up?
Timothy: And I'll give you time to think about it.
Timothy: Play the next clip, and you'll see what we're dealing with here.
SPEAKER_05: Well, this is terrifying.
SPEAKER_05: Did you know time is actually moving faster than it used to?
SPEAKER_05: Atomic clocks have measured it.
SPEAKER_05: The earth is spinning quicker, the days are getting shorter, nobody can explain it.
SPEAKER_05: We aren't imagining it, folks.
SPEAKER_05: The clock on the wall is lying to you.
Timothy: It's terrifying, Jacob.
Jacob: Uh, I don't know if it's like terrifying.
Timothy: We just saw it on the internet.
Timothy: It's terrifying.
Jacob: And with like flashy, orangey, scary graphics.
Timothy: Yes.
Timothy: And in fact, there's a lie in there somewhere.
Timothy: I didn't quite catch that part, but something about a lie.
Timothy: By the way, don't do a grok or an AI and ask the question like, is time speeding up or whatever?
Timothy: Because technically it can't really answer the question.
Timothy: True.
Timothy: When you're talking space, time, continuum.
Timothy: I mean, you could have all the scientists and say, no, this isn't true, but yet it'd be true.
Timothy: When you're talking about, again, I'm repeating myself, time, quantum, whatever, space-time, whatever, I mean, all sense of sensibility goes.
Timothy: What I kind of determined by digging into a little bit is in the beginning of the Big Bang, time was moving slower, but then it's faster where we're at.
Timothy: But uh let's just assume that what he's saying is true.
Timothy: Sure.
Timothy: All right, so why is time moving faster?
Jacob: Because the whole universe is wearing out, it's wearing thin, and it's about to go poof.
Timothy: Well, that is true, but that's not why.
Timothy: Somebody somewhere is praying.
Timothy: Oh, okay.
Timothy: Somebody somewhere is actually living a holy life.
Timothy: Let's look at 2 Peter, starting in chapter 3, and we're gonna read 9 through 18, and we're not gonna dive all day into this, but play the scripture, and then we're gonna point out why this scripture tells us that the day or time is speeding up.
2 Peter On Speeding His Coming
SPEAKER_09: 2 Peter 3, 9 to 18.
SPEAKER_09: The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness.
SPEAKER_09: He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
SPEAKER_09: But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, the heavens will disappear with a roar, the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.
SPEAKER_09: Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be?
SPEAKER_09: You ought to live holy and godly lives, as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming.
SPEAKER_09: That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat.
SPEAKER_09: But in keeping with his promise, we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness.
SPEAKER_09: So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless, and at peace with him.
SPEAKER_09: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him.
SPEAKER_09: He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters.
SPEAKER_09: His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other scriptures, to their own destruction.
SPEAKER_09: Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard, so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men, and fall from your secure position.
SPEAKER_09: But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and to him be glory both now and forever.
SPEAKER_09: Amen.
SPEAKER_09: So, Jacob, did you catch it?
Timothy: No.
Timothy: Go to Second Peter chapter three, verse twelve.
Timothy: It says, Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be?
Timothy: You ought to live holy and godly lives as you look forward to the day of God, and what's it say?
Timothy: And speed is coming.
Timothy: Yes.
Timothy: So it's the people that are obedient, the people that are being holy.
Timothy: Those people, as you go on down in the verse, it says, So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort.
Timothy: We're talking about a group of people that are effort, and that's I don't know too many people like that.
Timothy: Make every effort to be found, look at that.
Timothy: Spotless, blameless, and and at peace with him.
Timothy: That certainly precludes the cultural Christianity who think they're already saved, already spotless, and already blameless.
Timothy: But backing up to my main point there, what does verse 12 say?
Timothy: What what begins to happen?
Timothy: It's uh speed the Lord's coming.
Timothy: That's right.
Timothy: So it's speeding up, but it's because some people are actually being obedient.
Timothy: Jacob, go ahead and read 2 Peter chapter 3, verse 17.
Timothy: What does it say we should do?
Jacob: Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position.
Timothy: Well, how many churches and doctrines did that one passage just destroy, Jacob?
Timothy: Uh a lot.
Jacob: Lawless men.
Timothy: Lawless men, lawless congregations, no love of the word of God, no obedience, certainly no striving to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him.
Timothy: Can you imagine the kind well, you I know you can, the fellowship where everybody's together, like trying to be spotless and to be blameless and to be at peace with him?
Timothy: Talk about iron sharpening iron and purity and the word of God being alive and rich.
Timothy: If you found these kinds of people that really understand the Lord is coming and they're approaching that with fear and trembling, and they know they're speeding God's coming, if they are obedient, they're helping Jesus Christ move faster and say, you know, I gotta get there, I gotta show up, I gotta arrive.
Timothy: But we don't see that in the church as a whole, do we?
Timothy: No.
Timothy: That's why scripture says, therefore be on guard.
Timothy: Not only are we supposed to be doing all of these things, I mean, you can get the first part.
Timothy: Everybody's looking forward to the new heaven, right?
Timothy: The new earth, everybody talks about that.
Timothy: They talk about the rapture, they talk about the end times.
Timothy: But they fail to notice it says in the scriptures there, the home of righteousness.
Timothy: And that's why he goes into saying, make every effort.
Timothy: The minute you do that kind of every effort, all the discernment groups are gonna call you a cult.
Timothy: That's just a given.
Timothy: Uh the persecution is just gonna happen.
Timothy: Certainly, the world and the worldly, the government agencies, your next door neighbor, are gonna take note of the fact that you're living a life that is trying to be found spotless and blameless and at peace with Jesus Christ.
Timothy: So they're going to see your fear and trembling, they're going to see your effort, they're going to see your zeal for God, they're going to see a love that they do not have, and they have a choice.
Timothy: They can either repent or persecute or avoid you.
Timothy: And for right now, most of that is pretty much just ignoring you because they're all saved and fine.
Timothy: Am I correct on that, Jacob?
Timothy: Yep.
Timothy: All right.
Timothy: So therefore, be on guard.
Timothy: We should be walking around that we're not carried away by lawless men and fall from our secure position.
Timothy: I mean, that just blows one saved always right out of the water.
Timothy: Because if if you're not going to fall, if you can't lose your salvation, then what's the problem?
Timothy: Any comments or anything before we move on?
Timothy: Nope.
Timothy: Okay, this actually all kind of fits into our topic, our whole topic today about holiness and righteousness and living a godly life in comparison to the world.
Timothy: Now, we're going to talk about that which a lot of the Christians and a lot of conservative people, and in fact, the people that are still kind of sane will object to.
Seattle Pride Parade And Public Morals
Timothy: And that is the parade that was going on in Seattle, the Pride Parade.
Timothy: Go ahead and play that clip, Jacob.
SPEAKER_08: 300,000 people estimated to be here in downtown Seattle for this annual event, the largest parade in Washington State.
SPEAKER_08: We're going to bring you the sights and sounds we're going to the top.
Timothy: If you look out, there's a this is mild compared to the videos that could have been shown, but you know, technically, it would be pornography.
Timothy: And this is walking down the street, kids are seeing naked men, they're seeing well, I don't even want to describe it because it's just so vile.
Timothy: Now, watch what's coming up here.
Jacob: What do you what do you see here, Jacob?
Jacob: Uh a lady on a truck float with a flag.
Timothy: Yeah, see if you can back that up just about, let's do 10 seconds at a time, and then you tell me what you see.
Timothy: Keep going, keep going, keep going.
Timothy: Alright, right about there.
Jacob: Everyone is welcome here.
Jacob: The sign?
Timothy: Yes.
Timothy: Everyone is welcome here.
Timothy: There's actually a um uh graphic of that if you want to bring that up so other people can see it.
Timothy: Really?
Timothy: Everyone is welcome.
Timothy: The the Christians tried to have a little thing at the park, right?
Timothy: And that's in lawsuit territory because they didn't allow it.
Timothy: So we really think that the spirit of Sodom and Gomorrah would allow Christians to walk around downtown?
Jacob: No.
Timothy: What do you think if you you didn't even reach out?
Timothy: You just walk around with the teacher that says Jesus loves you or you need to repent, and you're not saying anything.
Timothy: You think that would be tolerated?
Timothy: No.
Timothy: No, not at all.
Timothy: Now, I want to back up here for a moment.
Timothy: How many people did he say were there?
Jacob: Uh 300,000, the largest parade in Washington.
Jacob: Those were his words.
Timothy: 300,000.
Timothy: And to think all of this started with the safe place put on by the uh Seattle police.
Timothy: You remember that a couple years, I want it probably 10 years back.
Timothy: Yes.
Timothy: They had little signs of police went around, of course.
Timothy: Sin always grows, perversion always goes.
Timothy: And we see this also in relationship to the legal system.
Timothy: This is King County.
Timothy: This is Seattle.
Timothy: 300,000 people.
Timothy: Now, that's not even counting the people that would show up if it was convenient or they had the time or they wanted.
Timothy: This is just this is 300,000 people that showed up, correct?
Courts, Juries, And Cultural Capture
Timothy: Correct.
Timothy: Now, what you tell me what kind of, let's say you're charged by King County prosecutors with a crime and you happen to be a Christian and you happen to be white, and you're brought before a bunch of people that are just gonna lie, and you've got a jury there.
Timothy: What do you think the odds are of getting a jury that actually could be fair and actually judge the case by what it what's being presented?
Timothy: Uh probably impossible.
Timothy: That's right.
Timothy: I would say impossible because we kind of know for a fact that it would be impossible.
Timothy: They're not open-minded.
Timothy: Not everybody's welcome.
Timothy: They don't have an understanding of the law.
Timothy: They would not even appreciate innocent until proven guilty.
Timothy: They wouldn't see the through the hypocrisy, the corruption of Judge Laurie K.
Timothy: Smith and King County prosecutors like Jason Simmons and all those other people.
Timothy: Correct?
Timothy: Correct.
Timothy: Not even close.
Timothy: Let's look at Isaiah chapter 3, verse 9, because it's kind of self-evident, but we're going to read through the scriptures and lead into other things.
Timothy: Now, again, this is a parade where people are marching nude downtown.
Timothy: You know, such things used to be illegal.
Timothy: They should have been arrested.
Timothy: There was kids running around.
Timothy: From what I've been told, is there was, you know, men urinating on each other, running and froticling, frolickling, I don't even get the word right, in the fountain that's down there.
Timothy: But this is 300,000 people, all with an agenda to go after anybody who opposed it.
Timothy: It's the Sodom and Gomorrah.
Timothy: You can go read the story yourself, where a couple of angels actually show up, and the Lord is with them, and they want to bring them into judgment because they feel like they're being judged.
Timothy: But is I Isaiah chapter 3, verse 9 says, the look on their faces testify against them.
Timothy: Kind of obvious, right?
Timothy: They parade their sin like Sodom, they do not hide it, and then it goes on to say, Woe to them, they have brought disaster upon themselves.
Timothy: You know, it's no mistake that Seattle is right on an earthquake fault line.
Timothy: Yeah.
Timothy: If you were a living God arranging the universe and sawing how things were going on, that particular aspect, just to contemplate the arrangement of the universe, and time speeding up, obviously, um, that Seattle's ripe for God's judgment when he wants to bring it about, correct?
Jacob: Correct.
Timothy: All right, Isaiah 3 10.
Timothy: Tell the righteous it will be well for them, for they will enjoy the fruit of their deeds.
Timothy: Take heart.
Timothy: This is only going to get worse.
Timothy: It's only going to get more corrupt.
Timothy: Yeah.
Timothy: Are county prosecutors cleaning themselves up?
Timothy: No.
Timothy: No.
Timothy: They're bearing it even more and more.
Timothy: And by the way, we're digging in in all kinds of information and freedom of information requests and things like that.
Timothy: If you've got some information, kick it my way.
Timothy: I'm not saying we can get to it.
Timothy: There is so much that's overwhelming.
Timothy: In fact, when I sit down to do these podcasts, it takes a different shape and form, and things happen on a daily, hourly basis before I even get here.
Timothy: Verse or Isaiah 3, verse 11.
Timothy: Woe to the wicked, disaster is upon them.
Timothy: It's not here yet, but it is upon them.
Timothy: They will be paid back for what their hands have done.
Timothy: Every little thing that King County prosecutors wrote in their false accusations, using a cop who scripted an accusation against a Christian church, who took the word of God into a courtroom.
Timothy: And by the way, folks, again, I want to repeat, we have that whole fiasco thing called a trial on videotape or video recorded.
Timothy: It's all there.
Timothy: I'm not making anything up that you can't check out yourself.
Timothy: And only the most depraved and wicked people that have hardened themselves against reality and truth would just ignore that.
Timothy: Now, 300,000 people marching down those streets.
Timothy: Do you think they care at all in a remote way of protecting a church that is living a righteous and holy life?
Timothy: Oh, no.
Timothy: Not even close, right?
Timothy: All right.
Timothy: Again, everyone, the grammar is everyone is welcome here.
Timothy: Everyone welcome here.
Timothy: Don't know.
Timothy: Either way, the point is, and I bleeped out the uh license plate number because it's not my point.
Timothy: But it's just another lie upon another lie upon another lie.
Timothy: Nobody's welcome who doesn't agree and dress like a furry dog, and I don't even want to say what they do, right?
Timothy: Correct.
Timothy: All right, so let's talk about gayness or being a homosexual.
Joe Rogan’s Question Gets Answered
Timothy: And we're going to play this next clip, and this is Joe Rogan asking the question, and you'll see the like of a response.
Timothy: I'm being kind here, so go ahead and play that.
Timothy: It's a little bit long, but I want you to see the frustration that the person who claims to be a Christian is having in trying to answer the question, and we're going to specifically answer the question the way that it should have been answered, and Joe Rogan needs to pay attention.
Timothy: Go ahead and play it.
SPEAKER_03: Why would God make people gay in the first place?
SPEAKER_03: Well, of course I would say it comes from God.
SPEAKER_03: If I didn't believe that, then I wouldn't be a Christian.
SPEAKER_03: Why would God make people gay?
SPEAKER_03: If he didn't want them to engage in gay sex.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but if that's like their fundamental attractiveness, they're they're attracted fundamentally to other men or other women.
SPEAKER_03: Why it seems like something that God gave them.
SPEAKER_03: Like why would God give you an attractiveness?
SPEAKER_03: Why would you be attracted to the same sex if that was morally reprehensible, if that was against God's will?
SPEAKER_03: Why would He instill that lust and that desire and that that feeling of being attracted and feeling of being in love with someone of the same sex?
SPEAKER_10: I don't think instilled is not the word that I would use.
SPEAKER_10: I don't think God instills it.
SPEAKER_10: I think that uh you know one of the one of the again, we're gonna you want to get into Christian doctrine.
SPEAKER_10: I mean one of the one of the uh one of the basic elements of Christian doctrine is that we're a fallen species.
SPEAKER_10: And uh and so there's there's there's there are many things that come out of our kind of fallen human nature.
SPEAKER_10: Um and we all have, like I said, we all have proclivities towards sin.
SPEAKER_10: And no one's gonna live a perfect life, you know.
SPEAKER_10: Um to live the the to live a moral Christian life is really difficult.
SPEAKER_10: It requires a lot of sacrifice no matter who you are.
SPEAKER_10: Um and that's it.
SPEAKER_10: I mean it it's it's have you wrestled with these thoughts before?
SPEAKER_03: Have you had these kind of conversations?
SPEAKER_03: And really like Sure, absolutely.
SPEAKER_03: Tried to figure out why why would God create gay people?
SPEAKER_03: Do you think that God has created gay people, or do you think they have a choice?
SPEAKER_10: God has created all people, so every person that's gay was created by God, of course.
SPEAKER_10: Um where exactly does that uh proclivity come from?
SPEAKER_10: Like I said, I I I don't know exactly.
SPEAKER_10: To say that someone's born gay I have issues with that that that are go beyond theology.
SPEAKER_10: Because now you're talking about you know, if you're born with a sexual with any sexual proclivity, then that means that we're talking about like gay infants and so on.
SPEAKER_03: But do you don't you think people are born straight, that some people are born straight?
SPEAKER_03: Were you born straight?
SPEAKER_10: Aaron Ross Powell It's just it's an odd way of talking about it.
SPEAKER_10: Like to say that to say that a a a baby is heterosexual.
SPEAKER_10: I think babies don't don't have a sexuality in that in that sense.
SPEAKER_03: Eventually they will develop a sexuality, and a small percentage of them.
SPEAKER_03: Will be homosexual.
SPEAKER_03: And that's always been that's been documented.
SPEAKER_03: It's natural.
SPEAKER_03: It's even natural in some animals.
unknown: Yeah.
SPEAKER_10: Well, I mean We we started by talking about uh laws and what what laws are put in place.
SPEAKER_10: Now we're talking about Christian teaching.
SPEAKER_10: Um but don't you think Christianity has a I I don't deny it, that Christianity has a challenging sexual um moral code.
SPEAKER_10: And but we're also I'm not s suggesting that um that it that the the the the Christian sexual morality should be codified into law.
SPEAKER_10: Um but isn't that what's happening if that's how we define marriage?
SPEAKER_03: Because marriage is law.
SPEAKER_03: And if marriage shouldn't involve gay people, then you are saying that it's because of Christian fundamentalist ideology.
SPEAKER_10: Trevor Burrus No, because I think you can you can talk about the marriage issue um without even getting into biblical morality, which is what I was doing.
SPEAKER_10: I mean you you brought up the Bible, right?
SPEAKER_10: I didn't I didn't think that's the same.
SPEAKER_03: Well I brought about we we talked about Christianity in particular.
SPEAKER_10: Right.
SPEAKER_10: But that's what that's my point.
SPEAKER_10: It's like you you you're you introduced that to the conversation.
SPEAKER_10: Yes.
SPEAKER_03: Um because I wanted to find the reason why you opposed gay people being married.
Jacob: Quick thoughts, Jacob.
Jacob: Um people are gay because of sin.
Timothy: Well, that's true.
Timothy: He was kind of mumbling.
Timothy: Did he give an answer?
Jacob: Uh I don't think his answer was very clear.
Timothy: There was as far as I concern, there was no answer.
Timothy: It's like when you ask somebody a question, they don't have the answer.
Timothy: They start rambling off on platitudes that are kind of true, but have really nothing to do with it.
Jacob: Yeah, he wasn't like super clear because Joe Rogan is asking a clear cra clear question, and the answer is yes, people aren't born gay.
Timothy: Well, you better hold on before we get there.
Timothy: Okay.
Timothy: Because that's not that's not true.
Timothy: Okay.
Timothy: Um, and we'll get to that here in a moment.
Timothy: Um there's the clearly there's very clear there isn't any clear teaching on the whole thing.
Timothy: This is an easy thing to answer.
Timothy: Technically, what the guy's answer is not an answer.
Timothy: In fact, he ends by attacking Joe Rogan.
Timothy: Well, you brought up the Bible.
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
Timothy: Look, I I've dealt, I'm not trying to ridicule the guy.
Timothy: I've been in positions too where people have asked me questions.
Timothy: I didn't have the answer.
Timothy: Now, the kind of questions they've asked me.
Timothy: I remember I was doing a radio show once, and they were interviewing me about a book I'd written.
Timothy: And the and the host asked me, Well, on page such and such, you wrote this.
Timothy: And he doesn't even quote what I wrote.
Timothy: Sure.
Timothy: And then he goes on to say, Well, you wrote the book, you ought to know.
Timothy: Now he's just being obnoxious, but I didn't, you know, it's like then I'm fumbling around instead of coming back at him.
Timothy: Go, well, what do you mean?
Timothy: Where are we at?
Timothy: But that was a learning lesson.
Timothy: So I I recognize it in myself.
Timothy: But you know what?
Timothy: Just as being a pastor and talking with people, that behavior that he gave was a non-answer, which was platitudes and was all over the stringy place and trying to get out of it, and yeah, I'm wrestling with it.
Timothy: I've seen a million times.
Timothy: It doesn't matter what the issue with somebody, if God is coming in and honing in on a particular aspect and sin of their life, very few people have the heart of King David that say, I'm the man.
Timothy: You know, it's excuses, it's well, this, it's really the spirit of Saul, and I'm not saying he's Saul, but it's that kind of sinful answer that's vague.
Timothy: Well, I did do this or I didn't do that, and we and you have to pile through the excuses just to get to and answer the question.
Jacob: And he never really did, he never actually answered the question, I don't think.
Timothy: No, well, he didn't answer.
Timothy: He made Christians look like a fool.
Timothy: Sure.
Timothy: Well, let me jump a little bit ahead, and then we're gonna come back, and I want to answer this in a deeper way.
Psalm 58 And Wickedness From Birth
Timothy: Go to Psalms 58, verse 1, and we're gonna read just the first part and section of that because it's not true.
Timothy: Well, let me back up.
Timothy: First, Joe Rogan's question is a faulty question.
Timothy: Because what he's saying is, well, why would God create gays if he didn't want them to be attracted to the same sex, right?
Timothy: Because he made so his implication is that he made so many of them, right?
Jacob: Well, he his implication, though, is that they're gay from birth.
Jacob: That's literally what Joe Rogan was saying.
Jacob: That there's a certain amount of the population that's born and they are gay.
Jacob: They will be gay.
Timothy: I got that.
Timothy: But he's also saying that clearly God made this large number of people.
Jacob: Yeah, he is saying that God made them gay.
Timothy: Correct.
Timothy: Okay, you're kind of missing the point.
Timothy: I I got step out of that moment for that God made them gay, because I'm going to answer that a question in a moment.
Timothy: What I'm getting at, he's implying that God made so many individuals, a large population of people, gay, that clearly, why would he do that if he was against it?
Timothy: All right, another way to put that is why would God create so many dictators that have murdered so many people around the world if he wasn't for them?
Timothy: Why would he make so many Chinese, which are clearly going to take us over and want to rule the earth?
Timothy: Why would he make so many rich men who want to control the world?
Timothy: Now that's that's a superficial destruction of the question.
Timothy: That's all I'm saying at this point.
Timothy: Sure.
Timothy: You can't look and go, well, hey, there's this whole number of people, therefore, God approves of what is going on.
Timothy: That's a ridiculous statement.
Timothy: Um and I, you know, I could go out on a silly routine like, okay, God made more Mexican people, so clearly God likes tacos.
Timothy: Oh, sure, yeah.
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
Timothy: That's all I'm really saying.
Timothy: This is not a numbers count.
Timothy: Correct.
Timothy: Um, all right, go to Psalms 58.
Timothy: Let's start in verse 1, and we'll probably cycle back to this because this is tied to King County prosecutors, believe it or not.
Timothy: Psalm 58 starting in verse 1.
Timothy: Do you rulers indeed speak justly?
Timothy: Governors speak justly?
Timothy: King County prosecutors speak justly.
Timothy: No, not even close, right?
Timothy: Yeah.
Timothy: Do you judge uprightly among men?
Timothy: Not even close.
Timothy: They are pursuing wickedness.
Timothy: Says God, scripture says, No.
Timothy: In your heart you devise injustice.
Timothy: Don't we see that all the time in the court systems.
Timothy: They may come across with flowery, legal words.
Timothy: Oh, we're doing good.
Timothy: You know, all the things they do.
Timothy: But inside, and what we see coming out of their hearts is what?
Timothy: Injustice, right?
Timothy: Correct.
Timothy: And your hands meet out violence on the earth.
Timothy: Okay, all of this is self-evident.
Timothy: Now look at this next verse, that first part.
Timothy: Do you see that, Jacob?
Jacob: Yes.
Jacob: Read verse three.
Jacob: Even from birth, the wicked go astray.
Jacob: From the womb they are wayward and speak lies.
Timothy: So God does make somebody gay.
Timothy: Now we're going to answer the question as to why here in a moment.
Timothy: That God knows in the womb, from the womb, and inside the wicked are going astray.
Timothy: So King County prosecutors, when they were in the womb, they were already wicked and going astray.
Timothy: Can we agree with that?
Timothy: Yes.
Timothy: And from the womb, from the womb, they're born, and they're already wayward and speaking lies.
Timothy: Yes.
Timothy: So when you hold little baby prosecutor Mark Larson in your hands as a baby, and you start going, oh, cute baby, and he gurgles back and he talks back.
Timothy: What is he speaking?
Timothy: Lies.
Timothy: Speaking lies.
Timothy: Now, the reason I bring that up is because prosecutor Mark Larson in the Seattle Times, his favorite buddy at the time, he evidently was going down, and this is what he stated.
Timothy: He was going down a bad path, an illegal path, right?
Timothy: Well, then he shifted into a law degree, a law degree.
Timothy: And his father said to him, Oh, I see you're coming over to the other side.
Timothy: Now, Mark Larson is spinning it like this is a good thing.
Timothy: From a father's perspective, I think he saw where his son was going, and he was being coy about what he was saying, like, yeah, you haven't improved, and so you're just flipping on the safe side by which you can continue to be wayward and to speak lies.
Timothy: What Joe Rogan doesn't realize is that in the womb he was going astray.
Timothy: From birth, being born, God knew in the foundation of the world before he was born, that is who he was.
Jacob: Well, and so I don't want to super jump ahead, but I mean you besides the word gay, everybody has like sins.
Jacob: So some if you're an alcoholic, if you're you know, uh in this case, Psalms is very specific about speaking lies, but like everybody is already born, every single little baby is a sinful baby.
Jacob: They just haven't actually gone on to sinning yet.
Jacob: But but but here's my question though, because even in this Psalms 58.3, it doesn't say that the Lord made them to speak lies, it just says that they from the womb they are wayward and speak lies.
Jacob: Like every baby is wayward because we're all sinners.
Jacob: It's just a matter of what the sin is.
Timothy: You are 100% correct.
Timothy: And what Joe Rogan is failing to realize, and the Christian that was answering the question is that is the standard place.
Jacob: Yes.
Timothy: Everybody's thinking they're either better than the gays, or Joe Rogan in his case, was like, well, there's nothing wrong, so we're all sinners, kind of weird thing.
Timothy: But there is this judgment, like, well, man, gay is worse than being just a lying prosecutor.
Timothy: Yeah, yeah.
Timothy: So you get this whole judgment thing.
Timothy: Yes.
Timothy: You you are absolutely correct.
Timothy: Joe Rogan would not be asking this question if he saw from the living God just how wicked and self-centered and greedy that he is.
Timothy: Yeah.
Timothy: If he saw who he was, I'm going to answer why God is turning certain people over to be gay, because he is stepping up that.
Timothy: It goes from, well, we all are sinners and we all need to repent, but then when it comes to being gay, something else is taking place, and scripture spells out exactly what's going on.
Timothy: Well, so we'll get to that here in just a second.
Timothy: I think you and I are totally clear, but I want to repeat it again.
Timothy: Yes, we're all sinners.
Timothy: Look, we have to think of I don't want to get too deep with this because this is already offensive enough, and it's going to be way over most people's heads.
Timothy: But the earth is like the waiting room in a courtroom where everybody's been found guilty and you're in the interim prison waiting for your sentence to be sent to the prison you're going to go to.
Timothy: Everybody's guilty, but even within the hierarchy of a prison, aren't there concepts of, well, you're a worse prisoner than I am, and then or the concept is, well, we're all innocent here, kind of routine, except for child molester.
Timothy: So you've got this whole thing.
Timothy: But isn't everybody in the prison who's guilty actually guilty and a sinner?
Jacob: Yes.
Jacob: If you went to prison on like, you know, even in our society, if you go to prison, you were guilty that you're in prison.
Jacob: Technically, you're all the same.
Jacob: It's just a matter of, oh, because they even, you know how you ever hear the stories like, let's see your papers.
Jacob: Like you're all in jail.
Jacob: You're all like the same.
Jacob: And then it's like, well, what does your paper say?
Jacob: And then we're going to decide how bad you are.
Jacob: That's how it like works in prison, I guess.
Timothy: That is correct.
Timothy: Um, unless of course you're innocent, that's a whole different story.
Timothy: Yes, that's possible.
Timothy: But so if Joe Rogan realized that he needed God as much as the gays, he wouldn't be asking this question.
Timothy: Correct.
Jacob: Well, but but we also will give Joe Rogan a tiny bit of like, because it's the Christian community that screams the loudest that like gays are evil and sinful, but the the Christian church doesn't like you know lift up other things as being wrong.
Jacob: They don't care about uh speaking lies, they don't care about waywardness, but the gays are the evil ones, so even Joe is like, well, okay, you know, he's trying to press the guy because he doesn't get it.
Timothy: Oh, totally.
Timothy: I mean, the the real way to open Joe Rogan up to this answer, the guy should have turned to him and said, Well, you don't hate and despise money, so you're gonna burn in the fire of hell.
Timothy: And scripture says that your wealth will burn your flesh like fire, like sulfur.
Timothy: So you're under the heaviest judgment.
Timothy: I I wouldn't worry about the gays.
Timothy: Yeah, I wouldn't worry about the gays.
Timothy: You need to open your eyes, see that.
Timothy: If see, if Joe Rogan got those eyes to see that, then the answer begins to get a little bit more clear about the gays.
Timothy: Yeah.
Timothy: All right.
Timothy: So let's press on now.
Romans 1 And Being Given Over
Timothy: Why are some people born gay?
Timothy: Romans chapter 1, verse 18.
Timothy: And let me give a real fast, quick answer.
Timothy: It's out of the love of God.
Timothy: Let me slow down.
Timothy: The person that is made gay, it is God's desperation of love to save them.
Timothy: Let's begin.
Timothy: Romans 1, 18.
Timothy: Says the wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godliness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness.
Timothy: That's Joe Rogan as well as everybody else.
Timothy: Says what may be known about God is plain to them because God has made it plain to them.
Timothy: Look, Mr.
Timothy: Rogan.
Timothy: Every blade of grass, ever you have all the trinkets, you have all the toys, you have the telescopes, you have the science, you've got the knowledge, everything before you.
Timothy: Everything that you do and have is confirmation that God exists.
Timothy: You're without excuse.
Timothy: You should be humbling yourself and laying down your life before God and letting him convict you of sin.
Timothy: It's like you have the evidence laid out before you more than other people.
Timothy: You've got the luxury to ask questions.
Timothy: You have the luxury to talk to a lot of brilliant people to get all kinds of information.
Timothy: Most people are too busy trying to earn a living.
Timothy: Or in other parts of the world, they're starving or they're working hard day and night.
Timothy: They don't have the luxuries that you do.
Timothy: And that's why God says every dollar, every piece of wealth, every fun thing that you do for yourself will burn your flesh like fire.
Timothy: The judgment upon rich people is huge because you have the advantages, you have the luxury, you have the ease in which to contemplate God.
Timothy: You're able to turn on a podcast and ask a Christian a legit question and keep pounding him with that question and keep going for that question because you are a multi, multi-millionaire, and you need to repent.
Timothy: And if you repented, then you would understand what God is doing with the gays.
Timothy: Until then, you will not understand.
Timothy: Shall we continue to read on in Romans, Jacob?
Timothy: Mm-hmm.
Timothy: For since the creation of the world, God's invisible qualities, his eternal power, and his divine nature have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made so that men are without excuse.
Timothy: Every scientist, everyone it's evident.
Timothy: How much more can you say it?
Timothy: Yeah.
Timothy: I wouldn't have to preach the gospel.
Timothy: I wouldn't have to say anything.
Timothy: You are self-condemned by having life.
Timothy: People need to realize that you are self-condemned.
Timothy: You can't look at the hypocrisy of the church.
Timothy: You can't look at the fact this guy couldn't answer the question or that he's presenting cultural Christianity.
Timothy: You are without excuse because everything around you, and the very fact you have a being, and that you can ask the question and that you can contemplate the invisible qualities of a God and his eternal power and the possibility of divine nature, the fact that you can like begin to roll that around in your head and your heart is proof that God exists.
Timothy: Now, the question may be well, is Jesus Christ God or Buddha or whatever you want to go from there, but you're able to contemplate that.
Timothy: Being understood from what has been made so that men are without excuse.
Timothy: All right, so everybody's without excuse.
Timothy: I think we've made that clear.
Timothy: Now here we go.
Timothy: For although they knew God, you see, you already know God exists.
Timothy: You already know he's there.
Timothy: They neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him.
Timothy: You don't see Joe Rogan going, Man, I want to thank God for the universe.
Timothy: No.
Timothy: You don't even see him say, Thank you for my wealth, which I I would suggest you don't go there, but whatever.
Timothy: You're not even falling into an ignorant territory where you just haven't been taught.
Timothy: You're not even glorifying or give thanks to him.
Timothy: You're just going on your selfish little way.
Timothy: You can see how God's mad at you, Mr.
Timothy: Rogan.
Timothy: It goes, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.
Timothy: You're asking really dumb questions like, well, why would God make people gay if he didn't approve of it?
Timothy: Well, it's just stupid.
Timothy: Why would God make a Hitler if he didn't mean for Jews to be gassed?
Timothy: Why wouldn't God make uh Castro?
Timothy: That's probably part of your time, Jacob, uh, down in Cuba to punish the church, to put people in slavery, to co-align with Russia in order to cause communism to spread the world.
Timothy: Why would God make Democrats?
Timothy: If he didn't like Democrats, if he didn't like Democrats, right?
Timothy: Yeah.
Timothy: Well, we because we all know Republicans are saints.
Timothy: Yeah, they're all saints.
Timothy: So that's all good to go.
Jacob: So again, we should go.
Jacob: Well, why did the Lord make Trump?
Jacob: He must love Trump.
Jacob: Correct.
Jacob: And clearly, then everybody should vote for Trump.
Jacob: Yeah, everybody should won the election.
Jacob: Because yeah, he won the election, therefore, yeah.
Timothy: In fact, that's what they go to.
Timothy: Scripture says God controls the hearts of the kings and so on.
Timothy: So therefore, Trump's in charge.
Timothy: So everybody should be supporting Trump.
Timothy: All right.
Timothy: Uh let's read on.
Timothy: Although they claim to be wise, I don't think Joe Rogan claims to be stupid, does he?
Timothy: No.
Timothy: I don't think the other Christian guy claims to be stupid, right?
Timothy: Uh-uh.
Timothy: Although they claim to be wise, they became fools.
Timothy: Man, this is this is a waste of a time of a discussion.
Timothy: I can answer the question here in two seconds flat, and what are you going to do with that, Joe Rogan?
Timothy: Once it's answered, or the other guy's Christian, are you going to repent and go deeper?
Timothy: Are both of you going to repent deeper and let God really break you as to what is true Christianity, what discipleship is about?
Timothy: No, they became fools and they exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal men and birds and animals and reptiles.
Timothy: Clearly he's talking about idolatry, right?
Timothy: So we worship the work of our hands, we worship our Bibles, we worship the ink on a paper, we have Christian doctrine, we have Christian theology.
Timothy: No, there is discipleship or there is no Christianity at all.
Timothy: All right.
Timothy: So what does God decide to do, Jacob?
Timothy: Do you want to read Romans 124?
Timothy: Do you want me to go put myself on the line here?
Jacob: Uh I can read it.
Jacob: Go for it.
Jacob: Therefore, God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.
Timothy: All right.
Timothy: So what does verse 24 tell us?
Timothy: What did God specifically do with these individuals, Jacob?
Jacob: He gave them over to their sinful desires.
Timothy: That's right.
Timothy: A little more theology here.
Timothy: God is holding back the earth so it just for judgment day.
Timothy: I mean, if he just let if he let everybody that is in the world say, okay, I'm not going to hold back the evil you want to do.
Timothy: Everybody can do what they want.
Timothy: You know, everybody can become prosecutors.
Timothy: Did you know, by the way, they can't be sued if they lie?
Timothy: Oh, prosecutors?
Timothy: Yeah, we'll get to that some other time.
Timothy: So you can all be liars, you can all do what you want, no, no consequences whatsoever.
Timothy: How long would it take for the world to destroy itself?
Jacob: Uh, pretty fast.
Jacob: And it's on a fast track to destroy itself.
Timothy: That is correct.
Timothy: So, what God does in his love, this desperate love that he has, and this is what the church misses, it's actually God trying to love the homosexuals.
Timothy: He's what he's trying to do is get them to back up and be shocked at what they're willing to do.
Timothy: Therefore, God gave them over in their sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.
Timothy: Now, they don't go for the homosexual doesn't go for repentance.
Timothy: They're not shocked by it, it leads to stubborn pride.
Timothy: And this is where the emphasis on pride comes in.
Timothy: They sense judgment is coming.
Timothy: I've talked to a lot of gays over the years.
Timothy: They're technically, and I'm using this in a loose term, but they're spiritual people.
Timothy: There's kind of a God conscious kind of thing, even more so than probably Joe Rogan, although I don't want to lump that in there.
Timothy: My main point is that they're not this unspiritual entity of individuals that like are atheists running around saying, Well, there is no God.
Timothy: Rather, you find what's going on is they've been turned over in their hearts.
Timothy: They know that what they're doing is It's in their conscience up to a point until they harden their conscience, and so they rebel, and so then they're in God's face going, No, we're proud of this sinful desire.
Timothy: But the reason that God is really giving them over to being gay rather than being made gay is a too strong a word.
Timothy: He gives them over to it in order to shock them that they might wake up and repent.
Timothy: Did I make sense or did I go off somewhere?
Timothy: No, it makes sense.
Timothy: This is a very, very crude example that you will know nothing about because A, parents aren't allowed to discipline their kids anymore, and cigarettes have been so demonized.
Timothy: But it used to be when a kid was caught out back smoking a cigarette, what would the father do, Jacob?
Jacob: Uh oh, I've heard you talk about this.
Jacob: Uh you would like, you know, you'd smoke, smoke the whole pack of cigarettes.
Timothy: That's right.
Timothy: Now, while mama's whining about daddy being too hard, he's got little Johnny out back behind the outhouse making him smoke the whole pack of cigarettes.
Timothy: And the idea is that you would just become so grossed out at that you wouldn't want the cigarettes later on.
Timothy: Yeah.
Timothy: I can't tell you whether it's effective or not.
Timothy: I'm just trying to give you an idea that this is a loving God that's coming along saying, okay, degrade your body.
Timothy: And he he and I don't know, maybe in the beginning, as people move toward gay sexual activity, there is this kind of like, man, I, you know, there's this battle that goes on.
Timothy: I can't speak for everybody, but I can tell you clearly that God is not making them gay, He's turning them over to it, and He's just holding other people back.
Timothy: If he didn't hold Joe Rogan back, he would want the sensuality of being gay, but he's got other ways that he enjoys his sinful nature.
Timothy: Made clear, can I press on?
Timothy: Mm-hmm.
Timothy: Yeah.
Timothy: Romans 1 25, they exchange the truth of God for a lie.
Timothy: And that's what we see going on.
Timothy: Isn't it kind of ironic?
Timothy: The gays can have their church, right?
Timothy: Yes.
Timothy: And and we have a church, but we don't have freedom of religion, but they have freedom of religion.
Timothy: Yes.
Timothy: So what we're seeing here is as one perversion or one corruption feeds in, it goes in everywhere.
Timothy: You can be sure.
Timothy: Look again, this is King County, 300,000 people.
Timothy: You can be sure the judges, you can see it by their behavior and their rulings.
Timothy: I mean, the Supreme Court wouldn't even allow a grandmother to dialogue with a gay because she wouldn't arrange the flowers.
Timothy: Now that is a group of depraved judges, is it not?
Timothy: Yes.
Timothy: So they exchanged the truth of God for a lie.
Timothy: They took their laws and they made the laws as a lie and worshiped and served created things rather than the creator who is forever praised.
Timothy: Amen.
Timothy: Now, what's the created thing King County prosecutors worship, Jacob?
Jacob: Uh the created things, the prosecutors.
Jacob: Well, I guess their created things would be all the trials that they win.
Timothy: You are correct.
Timothy: It's the laws, ink on paper, legislation.
Timothy: Is it not the work of their hands?
Timothy: Mm-hmm.
Timothy: All right.
Timothy: Verse Romans 1 26.
Timothy: Because of this, and this is why you see court systems, the legal system, the police, and everything become more and more sensual and shameful.
Timothy: Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lust.
Timothy: Even their women exchange natural relations for unnatural ones.
Timothy: We see this increasing within the land.
Timothy: You don't need a man, you don't need a husband.
Timothy: They hate men.
Timothy: Then obviously, you've got the sexual mality that goes for that.
Timothy: Verse 27 of Romans 1.
Timothy: In the same way, in the same way, the men also abandoned natural relations.
Timothy: You see, there's a choice here.
Timothy: In the same way the man also abandoned.
Timothy: So the urges come up.
Timothy: We have a choice.
Timothy: And that's where you get that really, and I'm I'm not trying to be critical, but kind of a half-truth that they weren't born that way.
Timothy: Well, there a better way to put that is they had the choice to overcome that or not give in to that.
Timothy: And that's kind of what the sloppy answer was.
Timothy: Well, we all have these things that we got to deal with.
Timothy: That's right.
Timothy: You got to deal with them.
Timothy: We all do.
Timothy: Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts.
Timothy: He goes on to say in the same way men abandon natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another.
Timothy: Men committed indecent acts with other men and received themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
Timothy: We see that in acting.
Timothy: I mean, there's the video, it's vile, but in the halls of Congress or somewhere, a couple of gays are having anal sex.
Timothy: I mean, it just keeps increasing, and the idea is that people would become shocked and go, man, what is wrong?
Timothy: I need to repent.
Timothy: But that's that's not what's happening.
Timothy: What's happening is the people that see that are disgusted become self-righteous.
Timothy: Well, I'm not like that, and then gays are nobody's they're all not coming together and go, we're all sinners and need to repent.
Timothy: Right?
Jacob: Correct.
Timothy: And so God brings about certain things, due penalty for their perversion.
Timothy: And we could talk about all the things that take place, especially in gay men, biologically, because of having anal sex and so on and forth, there is what?
Timothy: Consequences to sin.
Timothy: Any comments or anything?
Timothy: Did I make that clear?
Timothy: Anything I need to go back on?
Timothy: Nope.
Timothy: Jacob?
Timothy: All right, let me finish up with Romans 1.
Timothy: Oh, actually, let's go to 28 and 29 and 30 and 31 and 32.
Timothy: Therefore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind to do what ought not to be done.
Timothy: It's as clear as it can be.
Timothy: They're doing what should not be done.
Timothy: People sense, and this is why the gays have such a hard time convincing the rest of the world that what they do is natural and normal, because it's not natural and normal.
Timothy: It's above the whole thing.
Timothy: But it's again, it's like they're on the top rung of the prison, and we're all on the bottom level of the prison, and we look at those on the top and go, man, you guys are vile.
Timothy: And they look up there and go, Well, you're no better than us.
Timothy: And technically speaking, you know, when you're in hell, it's I've never been, I don't want to go there.
Timothy: It's not gonna make a lot of difference as far as I know.
Timothy: All right, he gave them over to depraved mind to do what ought not to be done.
Timothy: They have become filled with every kind of wickedness.
Timothy: Evil, greed, depravity.
Timothy: Uh Joe Rogan, did you catch that?
Timothy: They have become filled with every kind of wickedness.
Timothy: Evil and greed.
Timothy: And depravity.
Timothy: They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, and malice.
Timothy: They are gossip, slanders, god haters, insolent, arrogant, and boastful.
Timothy: They invent ways of doing evil, they disobey their parents, they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless, although they know God's righteousness decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things, but also approve of those who practice them.
Timothy: We don't have time to dig into every single one of those.
Timothy: And I am kind of repeating this, Jacob.
Timothy: Anything I need to back up and clarify?
Timothy: Nope.
Timothy: All right.
False Witness And Corrupt Authority
Timothy: They prayed their sin like Sodom.
Timothy: All right, let's go to Psalms chapter 58, verses 1 for 11, and we will see clearly how this ties into King County prosecutors or the Washington State Prosecutor Association, Washington State Legal System, the governor, everybody on down, because this kind of depravity, this kind of sinful increase in the land is a direct result of allowing this nonsense to go on.
Timothy: Walking naked down the street in furries with sexual sadomastic type things clearly is a demonstration that something is kind of wrong with leadership.
Timothy: Yeah.
Timothy: All right, so let's play Psalm 58, Jacob, and let's listen to this in context, because this is where it talks about the wicked going astray, even in the womb.
SPEAKER_09: Psalm 58, 1 to 11.
SPEAKER_09: Do you rulers indeed speak justly?
SPEAKER_09: Do you judge uprightly among men?
SPEAKER_09: No.
SPEAKER_09: In your heart you devise injustice, and your hands meet out violence on the earth.
SPEAKER_09: Even from birth, the wicked go astray.
SPEAKER_09: From the womb they are wayward and speak lies.
SPEAKER_09: Their venom is like the venom of a snake, like that of a cobra that has stopped its ears, that will not heed the tune of the charmer, however skillful the enchanter may be.
SPEAKER_09: Break the teeth in their mouths, O God, tear out, O Lord, the fangs of the lions.
SPEAKER_09: Let them vanish like water that flows away.
SPEAKER_09: When they draw the bow, let their arrows be blunted.
SPEAKER_09: Like a slug melting away as it moves along, like a stillborn child, may they not see the sun.
SPEAKER_09: Before your pots can feel the heat of the thorns, whether they be green or dry, the wicked will be swept away.
SPEAKER_09: The righteous will be glad when they are avenged, when they bathe their feet in the blood of the wicked.
SPEAKER_09: Then men will say, Surely the righteous still are rewarded.
SPEAKER_09: Surely there is a God who judges the earth.
Timothy: Make a little bit more sense about rulers and wickedness and how it all just kind of it's all one big lump ready for the fires of hell.
Timothy: Notice it says their venom is like the venom of a snake.
Timothy: It paralyzes.
Timothy: I don't know about you, but I was like naive, naive, really naive, totally naive, way naive.
Timothy: I really thought the legal system and the police were the good guys.
Timothy: It's hard to believe they don't listen to anything.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
Timothy: They paralyze it.
Timothy: Their venom is like the venom of a snake.
Timothy: And I mean, Jesus said it, but I hadn't experienced it.
Timothy: Now it's like two by four, Mac truck, everywhere I look.
Timothy: It's no wonder God put I thank God He put me through it because man, it was a huge wake-up call as to what's really going on.
Timothy: Their venom is like the venom of a snake, like that of a cobra that has stopped its ears.
Timothy: No matter how you, no matter what we said, no matter what evidence it's ironic, is it not, that we have all the evidence.
Timothy: I mean, real hardcore, solid evidence of a hate crime and a setup.
Timothy: I mean, it's all there, correct, Jacob?
Timothy: Correct.
Timothy: And they've stopped theirs.
Timothy: They won't even look at it, they won't even consider it.
Timothy: It's like the they it's like they don't even hear.
Timothy: And they may not even hear.
Timothy: I mean, they may be that far gone.
Timothy: And yet they put on trial for which they had no evidence.
Timothy: The King County or the Seattle police structured and scripted out the accusation, would not investigate the house where the alleged crime happened because it would prove that their lie was false.
Timothy: The city attorney, everybody down the line.
Timothy: There's no evidence for the trial that they did, and that's what they went to trial with, and yet we had all the evidence for them to actually put the people that were guilty in prison.
Timothy: That's soft ears, isn't it?
Timothy: Soft ears.
Jacob: Yes.
Timothy: They will not heed the tune of the charmer, however skillful the enchanter may be.
Timothy: They deserve every amount of judgment that's coming.
Timothy: And look, anybody that's associated with in the legal system by far, but certainly with the Malcolm Fraser case and Sound Doctrine Church and what you guys did, do not think for a moment you're going to escape.
Timothy: It's not going to happen.
Timothy: The judgment is coming.
Timothy: Even those of you who think, well, I had nothing to do with it.
Timothy: You know about it.
Timothy: And if you're in the legal system and you've done nothing about it, you will be held accountable because it was a watershed moment.
Timothy: And that's why the psalmist goes on to say, Bake, break the teeth in their mouths, O Lord.
Timothy: Because with their mouths, they destroyed the truth.
Timothy: Oh God, tear out, oh Lord, the fangs of the lions.
Timothy: You know, by the way, Joe Rogan had said, you know, that in uh nature there's homosexual activity, right?
Timothy: Mm-hmm.
Timothy: Well, you know, the black widow spider eats the male, right?
Timothy: Yes.
Timothy: So I guess that's okay too.
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
Timothy: I mean, just as a heads up, Mr.
Timothy: Rogan, I'm not a monkey.
Timothy: Yeah.
Timothy: And I have superior brain power and I have a conscience and I have a soul that is above the animals.
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
Timothy: All right.
Timothy: You get my point.
Timothy: Let them vanish like water that flows away.
Timothy: When they draw the bow, let their arrows be blunted.
Timothy: I won't continue to read it on, because like a slug melting away as it moves along, like a stillborn child, may they not see the sun.
Timothy: Before your pots can feel the heat of the thor thorns, whether they be green or dry, the wicked will be swept away.
Timothy: This is not a gameplay.
Timothy: And you can be sure that what's being declared here is true.
Timothy: Or if you think I'm wrong, okay, fine, go for that if you want to hold that.
Timothy: It's true for somebody, right?
Timothy: So give me a call and go, Well, who is this true for?
Timothy: The righteous will be glad.
Timothy: Every single day I'm preparing my court case.
Timothy: The righteous will be glad when they are avenged.
Timothy: When they bathe their feet in the blood of the wicked, we wait upon God to bring justice.
Timothy: He will bring justice.
Timothy: I'm not advocating violence because I don't have to.
Timothy: Because God will do the avenging.
Timothy: Then men will say, they don't say today, it's not right now.
Timothy: Then men will say, surely the righteous still are rewarded.
Timothy: Surely there is a God who judges the earth.
Timothy: There will be clarity.
Timothy: Any comments or anything, Jacob, before we press on?
Timothy: Nope.
Timothy: All right.
Timothy: Play this little next clip.
Timothy: And in this clip is a woman who spent some time in prison.
Timothy: And let's all listen to her insights.
Timothy: Hey, King County prosecutors, you may want to listen to this.
Timothy: You might you might actually gain some real insight instead of promoting that, oh, we take care of abuse.
Timothy: It's all for the children and elder abuse.
Timothy: You know why they use that as their advertising slogan?
Timothy: Because they can frame anybody.
Timothy: It's the easiest false accusations, the easiest trials to do, the easiest to get a plea bargain.
Timothy: So that's why they advertise, oh, we're taking care of the children and we're taking care of abuse because everybody's behind that.
Timothy: There's no if it's you know what?
Timothy: Different podcasts.
Timothy: Play this clip, Jacob.
SPEAKER_00: I don't believe women when they say they've been assaulted by a man without evidence.
SPEAKER_00: I spent 10 years in prison with some of the nastiest, most conniving, manipulative, vengeful, lying women.
SPEAKER_00: It allowed me to see the ugly side of womanhood and the type of women that exist.
SPEAKER_00: And there's a lot of them out there who are beautiful and intelligent and will smile in your face and tell a lie to get someone in so much trouble without a second thought.
SPEAKER_00: I would never want to disregard a victim who's had the strength to come out and speak up and stand up against the person who hurt them.
SPEAKER_00: I would never want to hurt that woman because I am a woman.
SPEAKER_00: However, here's the thing: my only child is a 13-year-old boy.
SPEAKER_00: I'm not doing it.
SPEAKER_00: I need evidence, babe.
SPEAKER_00: It's 2026.
SPEAKER_00: There's too many liars out there.
SPEAKER_00: If you claim you've been assaulted by a man, I'm going to need evidence unless you are quite literally a child.
SPEAKER_00: Anybody's liable to have an agenda and a motive.
SPEAKER_00: At the end of the day, you have to ask yourself, would you rather a guilty person walk free or an innocent person go down?
SPEAKER_00: What would you do if you were unsure?
Timothy: What do you think, Jacob?
Timothy: Uh, I believe her.
Timothy: Oh, I do too.
Timothy: And and what do you remember when Judge Lori K.
Jacob: Smith better than was it 10,000?
Timothy: I won't let you quote it.
Timothy: Let me set it up.
Timothy: Oh, okay.
Timothy: She lied.
Timothy: It was used to mean nothing about her behavior, whatever.
Timothy: None of her rulings were that it was, man, talk about a snake setting somebody up for a fall.
Timothy: Tell them what it was, Jacob.
Jacob: Well, I don't remember the exact quote, but I Oh, you don't have to.
Jacob: Well, it was like I think it was 10,000 better that like 10,000 guilty people go free than one innocent person go to jail.
Timothy: Oh, yeah.
Timothy: She started off as the first thing.
Timothy: You know, you know, uh, they have a saying that it's better than one man go free or 10 people go free than one innocent man and go to jail.
Timothy: I'm going to do better than that, Judge Laurie Case was a thousand people.
Timothy: Okay, yeah.
Timothy: And you know, and everything about that was an absolute, total, complete lie.
Timothy: That woman has no business on the bench.
Timothy: Again, a different podcast.
Timothy: Everything she said is true, but this is who King County prosecutors, and when I say that, Washington State Prosecutors, the Washington State Prosecutors Association, this is what they're advertising for.
Timothy: They want women to come forward and to lie so they can prosecute because it pats them on the back.
Timothy: It feeds their pride.
Timothy: They have no zero.
Timothy: I mean, not only is it zero, it's like minus 100 interest in the truth.
Timothy: Because you don't see these women being prosecuted.
Timothy: You don't even see kickback to test if there's truth.
Timothy: Why do you think Detective McCall could sit in a room with a woman, script out the accusation, and nobody says anything?
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
Timothy: No, no judge goes, hmm, you know what?
Timothy: I don't think sitting in a room, scripting out an accusation is a good thing.
Timothy: Maybe this cop's up to no good.
Timothy: Maybe he's corrupt.
Timothy: Maybe he's setting up the crime.
Timothy: Nobody said that.
Timothy: It was like, it was a yawn, wasn't it?
Timothy: Yes.
Timothy: Oh yeah, okay.
Timothy: And then prosecutor Jason said, it's for the jury to decide.
Timothy: Yeah, okay, he should be, yeah, if he was being on trial.
Timothy: But so you know what?
Timothy: Jason Simmons again and prosecutor Simmons and Mark Larson, they all said it really doesn't matter what Detective McCall did.
Timothy: And it doesn't matter what the church did.
Timothy: All that matters is what the false accuser is saying.
Timothy: Remember all that?
Timothy: Yep.
Timothy: So then why waste 28 days talking about the church?
Timothy: Yeah.
Timothy: Why even bother putting the detective on the stand?
Timothy: Why didn't you just walk in?
Timothy: It would take an all of what, three days?
Timothy: She testifies, cross-examine, and the jury testify.
Timothy: If that's all it took, if it was so convincing, if it was so solid her testimony, then you didn't need any of the rest of that.
Timothy: They knew that they were lying from get-go from the day one.
Timothy: People, if you're sitting on a jury, keep in mind these prosecutors are paid to lie.
Timothy: The police are trained to lie.
Timothy: That's why nobody thought anything was strange.
Timothy: This is what they do for a living.
Timothy: They lie.
Timothy: Play this next clip.
Timothy: We're not going to go through all the scriptures, but I want you to notice how often God talks about a false witness.
Timothy: And that can be a false witness that's a prosecutor, knowing that they're presenting a lie, a false witness to the truth, reality.
Timothy: In fact, King County prosecution didn't even reflect reality.
Timothy: This thing was a fantasy made up.
Timothy: I don't want to go too long because I'll break it down.
Timothy: Play the scriptures and let's press on.
SPEAKER_09: Proverbs 21-28.
SPEAKER_09: A false witness will perish, and whoever listens to him will be destroyed forever.
SPEAKER_09: Proverbs 6 19.
SPEAKER_09: A false witness who pours out lies, and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers.
SPEAKER_09: Proverbs 12 17.
SPEAKER_09: A truthful witness gives honest testimony, but a false witness tells lies.
SPEAKER_09: Proverbs 14 5.
SPEAKER_09: A truthful witness does not deceive, but a false witness pours out lies.
SPEAKER_09: Proverbs 14 25.
SPEAKER_09: A truthful witness saves lives, but a false witness is deceitful.
SPEAKER_09: Proverbs 19 5.
SPEAKER_09: A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who pours out lies will not go free.
SPEAKER_09: Proverbs 19 9.
SPEAKER_09: A false witness will not go unpunished.
SPEAKER_09: And he who pours out lies will perish.
Obscuring Reality And Final Warnings
Timothy: Alright, moving forward to the Supreme Court.
Timothy: Have you heard about uh Justice Thomas's truth bomb?
Timothy: Uh no, I haven't.
Jacob: I don't think I've heard about the truth bomb.
Timothy: Yeah, this just happened either yesterday or this morning.
Timothy: I'm not sure.
Timothy: Like I said, there's a he's one of the, and uh can I use it in quotes, good conservative um uh justices on the Supreme Court.
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
Timothy: Well, you know, this whole controversy about men playing on girls' sports team, right?
SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah.
Timothy: Well, naturally the ruling came out that that's not allowed.
Timothy: You know, the very the very fact that we're having or had to have that discussion proves America is like way down the list and prime for destruction.
Timothy: Because this shouldn't even be a discussion.
Timothy: Correct.
Timothy: No more than people walking down the street naked and naked and doing sexual things in front of children and so on, whatever.
Timothy: All right.
Timothy: So what this is what happened.
Timothy: I'm not going to go through the whole argument, but this is what everybody's excited about on the conservative side, and let me quote what he said.
Timothy: Just Thomas said to use language to obscure reality to show indifference.
Timothy: Regarding the truth is to lie to the public and cease to treat our fellow citizens as equals.
Jacob: Do you get what he's saying?
Jacob: He's saying we're not gonna like lie to people about things.
Jacob: Oh, indifference to the truth.
Jacob: So you can't just be like numb to the obvious.
Timothy: And you're really close.
Timothy: It's the first part of it.
Timothy: To use language to obscure reality.
Timothy: In other words, male is male, female is female.
Timothy: That is a hardcore reality.
Timothy: Yes.
Timothy: Sun comes up, sun goes down, the moon does this.
Timothy: There are hardcore realities.
Timothy: And when you begin to use language to obscure that, you're fighting against reality and producing a lie.
Timothy: Well, that's exactly what King County prosecutors do in court.
Timothy: Yes.
Timothy: That's with this whole gender thing that men should be able to play in women's sports.
Timothy: It was an affront to reality itself.
Timothy: And so what he's saying is very, very true.
Timothy: This is why you see within King County prosecutors' courtroom and Judge Laurie K.
Timothy: Smith and Beth Andrus and even the Washington State Prosecutors Association, a divergence from reality.
Timothy: They're not even tied to what's real.
Timothy: And that's where the real frustration comes in.
Timothy: These aren't judgment calls like, well, are boys really boys and are girls really girls?
Timothy: Can a girl can be a boy?
Timothy: I mean, because in the front, that's not a debate.
Timothy: That's a reality.
Timothy: That's like a brick wall, and you got a car and you go, you know, I'm gonna drive you know 60 miles an hour into a brick wall.
Timothy: Well, what's gonna happen?
Jacob: You're gonna crash and die.
Timothy: You're gonna crash and die.
Timothy: You can debate that all you want, but that's what's gonna happen.
Jacob: Yeah.
Timothy: I'm running out of time.
Timothy: So play the jury reminder and then all the conclusions and take us out of here, Jacob.
SPEAKER_07: A jury duty reminder is ahead.
SPEAKER_07: Item one, police are trained to lie.
SPEAKER_07: Item two, prosecutors are promoted on how well they lie to the jury.
SPEAKER_07: Item three, judges are applauded if they twist the law to maintain one and two.
SPEAKER_07: Item four, God is known for his justice because of his righteousness.
SPEAKER_07: Item five, justice is found by ignoring the accused crime.
SPEAKER_07: Item six, justice is measured by the purity of power, not the application of power.
SPEAKER_07: Resist what is called legal, but is really unlawful.
SPEAKER_07: Resist the tricks of the trade.
SPEAKER_07: Resist the ruthless.
SPEAKER_07: Proverbs 28.4.
SPEAKER_07: Those who forsake the law praise the wicked, but those who keep the law resist them.
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